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Glue traps are cruel, and retailers should be banned from selling them

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Re: Glue traps are cruel, and retailers should be banned from selling them

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

piedpiper19 wrote: post #16

They should also ban cats while they are on this. Being eaten alive sounds way more cruel than getting stuck and starving to death! /s

If my cat actually ate the things, I'd be impressed. Instead, being a fully satiated indoor house cat she spends hours and hours "playing" with them, and then comes to us crying when they don't move anymore.

They definitely have a predator psyche.

Still, living in the country in an older home we tried for years to stay on top of our mouse problem. There's no way we could seal up all the holes and accesses here.

Once we got the cat, it was an instant transformation. A couple times a year the mice come in from outside looking for shelter and the cat has a week of entertainment and then we're mouse free.

Re: Glue traps are cruel, and retailers should be banned from selling them

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Post by cmrdporcupine »

butteroverflow wrote: post #23
Amezarak wrote: post #11

> Indeed, humane methods of rodent control are readily available. Retailers included in the activists' lawsuit, including Walmart and Canadian Tire, sell humane live traps (for as low as $19.99 on Walmart.ca at time of writing). Many pest control companies also offer humane solutions. I have had mice get in my house a few times. I hate glue traps. I had seen them used at a restaurant I used to work at, and it is pret…

>I tried all sorts of "instant kill" traps I have relatives living in the country. They get a lot of mice and went through a lot of these factory produced traps; nothing worked. Then they bought a couple of pretty simple traps made by local school kids in shop class. I believe the head count of each trap is now in the hundreds. It's a pretty simple contraption: a wood brick with a burrow in it. You put a piece of foo…

Grew up in the country (and live there now) and my dad used to do this in the garage, which isn't humane at all, but very effective:

Take a 2 litre pop bottle, remove the cap, put some food with a little poison inside. Make a little ramp for the mouse to get in. The mouse can go in, but it's too slippery for them to get out, they can't get traction on the plastic. They die inside the bottle, but can't spread the poison around to cats or other predators that might eat them.

Re: Glue traps are cruel, and retailers should be banned from selling them

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Post by ourmandave »

Glue traps are horrible by design. Just reading the label made me nauseous.

But given the mission there's no good outcome for the mice.

Even if you catch-and-release (in a far off field away from homes), mice are prolific and there's now probably a bunch of starving baby mice somewhere.

Re: Glue traps are cruel, and retailers should be banned from selling them

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Post by shlant »

butteroverflow wrote: post #23
Amezarak wrote: post #11

> Indeed, humane methods of rodent control are readily available. Retailers included in the activists' lawsuit, including Walmart and Canadian Tire, sell humane live traps (for as low as $19.99 on Walmart.ca at time of writing). Many pest control companies also offer humane solutions. I have had mice get in my house a few times. I hate glue traps. I had seen them used at a restaurant I used to work at, and it is pret…

>I tried all sorts of "instant kill" traps I have relatives living in the country. They get a lot of mice and went through a lot of these factory produced traps; nothing worked. Then they bought a couple of pretty simple traps made by local school kids in shop class. I believe the head count of each trap is now in the hundreds. It's a pretty simple contraption: a wood brick with a burrow in it. You put a piece of foo…

> "It's a pretty simple contraption: a wood brick with a burrow in it. You put a piece of food in the end of the hole, then tighten a steel spring and tie it down with a piece of thread, which goes through the trap and covers the hole, so that a rodent has to chew through the thread to get to that food. The spring pulls on a copper wire noose; you know the rest."

That sounds... overly complicated, and could only catch one per setting. Have they tried a glass bowl will oil?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxxFNkNf6q8

Re: Glue traps are cruel, and retailers should be banned from selling them

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Post by [deleted] »

petee wrote: post #24
__i___ii____ wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

100 flies = 1 mouse. However, mosquitos have absolutely no value and can be exterminated to extinction. We could even make it a holiday.

You realize alot of animals eat mosquitoes right? They are part of the food chain

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Re: Glue traps are cruel, and retailers should be banned from selling them

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Post by zamfi »

petee wrote: post #24
__i___ii____ wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

100 flies = 1 mouse. However, mosquitos have absolutely no value and can be exterminated to extinction. We could even make it a holiday.

You realize alot of animals eat mosquitoes right? They are part of the food chain

Yes, but the mosquitos will be replaced in their environment by other bugs that are equally tasty and don’t also kill humans in such massive numbers.

Re: Glue traps are cruel, and retailers should be banned from selling them

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Post by chrismeller »

__i___ii____ wrote: post #18
onebyteman wrote: post #12

Glue traps have always been more useful to catch bugs. Just put one out at night and next morning it will be really gross I wonder how the author will respond to insect humaneness vs for mammals. Is she a mammalist??

100 flies = 1 mouse. However, mosquitos have absolutely no value and can be exterminated to extinction. We could even make it a holiday.

Everything in the ecosystem has value, that’s why it exists.

Many creatures eat mosquitos and ants and the like. They also help to spread disease that keeps the population of the species they, in turn, prey on in check.

Re: Glue traps are cruel, and retailers should be banned from selling them

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Post by [deleted] »

rident wrote: post #7

Who leaves a mouse on a glue trap until it dies? That's messed up! I can hear when a mouse is on those things and at that point I carry the frightened mouse outside, pour a cap full of vegetable oil around it's feet and it frees itself, running off into the yard, then the trap goes in the trash. Heinously cruel? Only if you're a lazy shit.

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Re: Glue traps are cruel, and retailers should be banned from selling them

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Post by prepend »

Shikadi wrote: post #28
piedpiper19 wrote: post #16

They should also ban cats while they are on this. Being eaten alive sounds way more cruel than getting stuck and starving to death! /s

I know you put /s, but I just want to say that if I were a mouse I would much prefer being eaten alive.

It’s funny that in the future comments this this will be used by our AI/alien/evil overlords to determine our ultimate fate.
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