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Re: Hack the Box – Pentesting Labs for Free

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I've browsed a few times the assembler courses on Pentester Academy. I'm not sure I'm up for being a pentester but I do like the particulars of assembler and CPUs. Would you recommend those courses in particular (looking as amd64 and arm ones)?

Yep, they're great courses. Make sure you actually do it. Vivek is an excellent instructor, and he goes from nothing to getting you up to speed pretty quickly. The first parts might be a bit dry, because it's a lot of architecture and theoretical stuff. But after you get through that, and start doing things, you'll find that it's awesome. Also, if you don't want to be a pentester, you might find a particular affinity…

Thanks for that recommendation and advice, I appreciate it. Yeah, I'd definitely prefer to find and propose fixes for exploits over full pentesting (reporting/client work).

Re: Hack the Box – Pentesting Labs for Free

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Nice! Also reccomended are pentestit.ru, pentester academy and boxes hosted on vulnhub. Apart from offensive security labs ofcourse.

100% agreed I love Pentester Academy. I've had a subscription to it for the last year or so. And OffSec is nice, too. I've got OSWP, OSCP, OSCE, and I'm in the Black Hat training this year for OSEE. So we'll see how that goes. I haven't tried their On-Prem labs though, but I think they'd be pretty fun.

Wow! I achieved my OSCP 3 years back, but could never find the time to prepare for OSCE though. Hopefully, I will achieve it one day.

Re: Hack the Box – Pentesting Labs for Free

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I've browsed a few times the assembler courses on Pentester Academy. I'm not sure I'm up for being a pentester but I do like the particulars of assembler and CPUs. Would you recommend those courses in particular (looking as amd64 and arm ones)?

Yep, they're great courses. Make sure you actually do it. Vivek is an excellent instructor, and he goes from nothing to getting you up to speed pretty quickly. The first parts might be a bit dry, because it's a lot of architecture and theoretical stuff. But after you get through that, and start doing things, you'll find that it's awesome. Also, if you don't want to be a pentester, you might find a particular affinity…

Absolutely agree! Vivek's ASM tuts are amazing. Additionally, Nikhil's red team lab is highly recommended.

Re: Hack the Box – Pentesting Labs for Free

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Yea I was hoping to sign up to, to try it out!

The clue is on the page... "Feel free to hack your way in :)" Should take you a moment or two if that's your mind set, a little longer if you need to brush up on your JavaScript, or a little quicker if you Google a walkthrough :-)

If you just want to see what it's about then google works I guess, but if you can't get registered on your own I'm not sure that Hackthebox is the best place to start for pentesting.

Re: Hack the Box – Pentesting Labs for Free

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yep, they're great courses. Make sure you actually do it. Vivek is an excellent instructor, and he goes from nothing to getting you up to speed pretty quickly. The first parts might be a bit dry, because it's a lot of architecture and theoretical stuff. But after you get through that, and start doing things, you'll find that it's awesome. Also, if you don't want to be a pentester, you might find a particular affinity…

Absolutely agree! Vivek's ASM tuts are amazing. Additionally, Nikhil's red team lab is highly recommended.

Will check that one out. I only have a rough idea of what a red team is (abstract, some books, etc), but no practical experience with it.

Re: Hack the Box – Pentesting Labs for Free

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For those that have been using the service and have actual pentesting experience, how applicable are the challenges to the real world? Similar challenges I took in the past seemed like fun games, but still games.

YMMV, but, in my experience the biggest difference between these platforms and "real world" is the amount of data available (generally). At big companies, if you were to run a red team exercise or pen test, most of the probing and data gathering you do is on confluence, open git repos, and other places of documentation. Not running nmap or sitting in the middle of two services and inspecting packets. That's not to sa…

I've been trying to learn infosec for a few years now with the eventual goal of either an offense/defense role. Plan to work on my OSCP next.

I have a few basic questions please:

1. Aside from: linux cmds, nmap, metasploit, sqlmap, mimikatz, kali's well known tools - what other tools are often used by pen testers ?

2. How is MFA beaten in today's enterprises ?

3. Do most engagements assume one is already in the network ? If not, how does one scan (basic OSINT towards their externally facing website, but let's assume that is very secure)

4. How well do pen testers know the defense side and amalgamation of so many defensive tools - how do they learn what to beat ? Is it really as simple as try to fingerprint and then look for known vulnerabilities on msf ? Or do pen testers not care if xyz enterprise is using this version of Palo Alto or a carbon black EDR etc.

e.g. Alphabet soup of products in a large enterprise for defensive solutions - NGAV, EDR, SIEM, honeypots etc. etc.

5. How do you keep up ? aside from Reddit

6. any advice to future job seekers working their way into learning more infosec ?

Re: Hack the Box – Pentesting Labs for Free

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Asking the Hive Mind who might play with HTB, vulnhub and other labs (OSCP paid one):

1. Aside from: linux cmds, nmap, metasploit, sqlmap, mimikatz, kali's well known tools - what other tools are often used by pen testers ?

2. How is MFA beaten in today's enterprises ?

3. Do most engagements assume one is already in the network ? If not, how does one scan (basic OSINT towards their externally facing website, but let's assume that is very secure)

4. How well do pen testers know the defense side and amalgamation of so many defensive tools - how do they learn what to beat ? Is it really as simple as try to fingerprint and then look for known vulnerabilities on msf ? Or do pen testers not care if xyz enterprise is using this version of Palo Alto or a carbon black EDR etc.

e.g. Alphabet soup of products in a large enterprise for defensive solutions - NGAV, EDR, SIEM, honeypots etc. etc.

5. How do you keep up ? aside from Reddit

6. any advice to future job seekers working their way into learning more infosec ?

Re: Hack the Box – Pentesting Labs for Free

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Asking the Hive Mind who might play with HTB, vulnhub and other labs (OSCP paid one): 1. Aside from: linux cmds, nmap, metasploit, sqlmap, mimikatz, kali's well known tools - what other tools are often used by pen testers ? 2. How is MFA beaten in today's enterprises ? 3. Do most engagements assume one is already in the network ? If not, how does one scan (basic OSINT towards their externally facing website, but let'…

1. Google/bing dorks still work well, burp suite..

2. Phishing still works, a few platforms steal MFA input - u2f/Fido is pretty robust tho. The trick is to find apps and federation that don’t enforce

3.you would see all kinds, no one size fits all

4. Really good shops and teams know the defense and countermeasures but the vast majority I would say don’t care

5. Infosec communities and such really are key - moves so damn fast

6. Learn how the sausage is made, I feel like I have way more insights from my Unix/network admin and SDE days which let me predict how stuff was put together - makes it so much easier to know how to break it. There is no quick path here though..

Re: Hack the Box – Pentesting Labs for Free

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Asking the Hive Mind who might play with HTB, vulnhub and other labs (OSCP paid one): 1. Aside from: linux cmds, nmap, metasploit, sqlmap, mimikatz, kali's well known tools - what other tools are often used by pen testers ? 2. How is MFA beaten in today's enterprises ? 3. Do most engagements assume one is already in the network ? If not, how does one scan (basic OSINT towards their externally facing website, but let'…

1. Dozens (if not hundreds) of tools are used. It's all about personal preference, and what you're used to. Personally, I don't often use most of the tools you mentioned except Mimikatz; I use a commercial framework paired with many open source or private PowerShell scripts and .NET tools.

2. Something like evilginx2 can provide man in the middle functionality for stealing MFA tokens, or I try to find endpoints that have misconfigured or absent MFA.

3. It depends on the engagement. We like assumed breach scenarios because they're more effective for the time and money involved, but clients want entirely black-box engagements fairly often as well. Otherwise, I'll focus on using OSINT to develop a phishing target list, assuming I do basic scans against the organization's external network footprint and don't find anything egregious.

4. It's all about experience. You have to come up against the tools, and then see what works. It's really a lot of trial and error, though a lot of common bypass techniques will work against multiple products. There's no one-size-fits-all bypass.

5. Twitter, public Slack channels, and research performed by myself and my coworkers.

6. Learn soft skills. It's easy to teach someone how to do the technical part of the job, but you have to be able to communicate it to stakeholders. Technically, you should focus on the areas that interest you, but ensure that it's something used by the types of clients you're doing work for. It doesn't help to know the latest and greatest Linux attacks if none of your clients even know what Linux is. It doesn't help to be a badass web application pentester if you're expected to be able to move through a large Active Directory environment. Personally, I focus on Windows and Active Directory environments.

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