Firefox Personal Data Promise

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Post by sciurus » Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 2:25 PM UTC

Firefox Personal Data Promise
blog.mozilla.org

Re: Firefox Personal Data Promise

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Post by kreetx » Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 3:58 PM UTC

Do they take periodic donations somewhere? ;)

Re: Firefox Personal Data Promise

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Post by dogecoinbase » Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 4:02 PM UTC

I love Mozilla, but it's difficult to take this seriously while they're still partnering with Cloudflare on in-browser resolvers that bypass my local DNS resolver and expose my lookups to Cloudflare: https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2019/04/02/dns-over-...

Re: Firefox Personal Data Promise

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Post by Krasnol » Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 4:03 PM UTC

kreetx wrote: post #2

Do they take periodic donations somewhere? ;)

https://donate.mozilla.org/en-US/?presets=50%2C30%2C20%2C10&...

Re: Firefox Personal Data Promise

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Post by cfv » Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 4:04 PM UTC

I for one hope they keep this promise better than the EME one, about which I'm still super salty

Re: Firefox Personal Data Promise

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Post by josteink » Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 4:10 PM UTC

dogecoinbase wrote: post #3

I love Mozilla, but it's difficult to take this seriously while they're still partnering with Cloudflare on in-browser resolvers that bypass my local DNS resolver and expose my lookups to Cloudflare: https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2019/04/02/dns-over-...

I mean... I’m fine with Cloudflare DoH being an option.

But being the default? That’s just crazy.

Re: Firefox Personal Data Promise

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Post by Zhenya » Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 4:16 PM UTC

Is there a place where I can see everything they promise to keep safe about me?

Re: Firefox Personal Data Promise

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Post by afiori » Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 4:17 PM UTC

josteink wrote: post #6

dogecoinbase wrote: post #3

I love Mozilla, but it's difficult to take this seriously while they're still partnering with Cloudflare on in-browser resolvers that bypass my local DNS resolver and expose my lookups to Cloudflare: https://blog.mozilla.org/futurereleases/2019/04/02/dns-over-...

I mean... I’m fine with Cloudflare DoH being an option . But being the default? That’s just crazy.

As far as I remember having a predefined default was never actually considered.

Re: Firefox Personal Data Promise

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Post by lucideer » Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 4:21 PM UTC

It's great to see this recent marketing initiative from Mozilla to frame themselves as a privacy-first company. Mozilla has always been considered by the community as an organisation that should respect the privacy of their users, but there hasn't until now been such direct public statements to that effect to point to.

Mainly I hope this can now be pointed to by Mozilla/Firefox users as a set of standards that should be followed when Mozilla devs put in place measures that infringe users' privacy or don't do enough to protect it.

Right now, https://mozilla.org/ sets 15 Google cookies and 12 Google localStorage tracking values when you visit it. Mozilla's previous statements[0] justifying this have been fairly weak. I really hope this new PR initiative gives some extra leverage to those asking for change.

[0] https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/mozilla.governance/9IQ...

Re: Firefox Personal Data Promise

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Post by evmar » Fri, Jun 07, 2019, 4:25 PM UTC

Where in this page is the actual promise? Is it the "take less" bit? That is a surprisingly weak statement.

I think almost all of the statements made here are worded vaguely enough that could be equally have been claimed by Google, e.g. "never sell ... your info" / "only data we want is ... data that serves you in the end". But I think Mozilla's actual intended position is pretty far from Google.