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Re: Plotty Bird: flappy bird on the HP7440A pen plotter

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> though they're expensive to run The pens are expensive? Or they use some special paper? Or they wear through some component like belts? What's the expensive bit?

The TCO of the large X-Y pen plotters seemed subjectively expensive, for hobby purposes, which I suspect is most of the reason to still use a pen plotter. Large paper (maybe you can use the current inkjet ones), expensive pens that you go through quickly (I don't know whether they're made anymore, or whether there's a viable DIY way to keep them refilled and working, or to adapt current off-the-shelf non-plotter pens…

But you can throw a pen into any gantry mechanism, whether that's a cheap laser like the k40 or a hobby router like the xcarve, or a kit-built machine like cncrouterparts sells.

These are cheap and ubiquitous. Most of them speak gcode not hpgl, but that's just a firmware tweak or a postprocessor change.

Re: Plotty Bird: flappy bird on the HP7440A pen plotter

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The TCO of the large X-Y pen plotters seemed subjectively expensive, for hobby purposes, which I suspect is most of the reason to still use a pen plotter. Large paper (maybe you can use the current inkjet ones), expensive pens that you go through quickly (I don't know whether they're made anymore, or whether there's a viable DIY way to keep them refilled and working, or to adapt current off-the-shelf non-plotter pens…

But you can throw a pen into any gantry mechanism, whether that's a cheap laser like the k40 or a hobby router like the xcarve, or a kit-built machine like cncrouterparts sells. These are cheap and ubiquitous. Most of them speak gcode not hpgl, but that's just a firmware tweak or a postprocessor change.

What you say sounds promising, and maybe better than trying to keep a large HP pen plotter running.

Re: Plotty Bird: flappy bird on the HP7440A pen plotter

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The most insane device in this vein IMO is the Panasonic Penwriter. It's a four color typewriter (!) and plotter. Yes. It was using pens to write whatever you typed. And this was in 1985! If it'd been more reliable (surprise: it wasn't) it would've taken the world by storm. (I think Brother had one too.) Lately someone worked it out how to connect it to a modern PC. https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/a/7936/372…

PC Magazine review from 1985: https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=Dwvc24nC0IQC&pg=PA67&lpg...

Re: Plotty Bird: flappy bird on the HP7440A pen plotter

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> though they're expensive to run The pens are expensive? Or they use some special paper? Or they wear through some component like belts? What's the expensive bit?

The TCO of the large X-Y pen plotters seemed subjectively expensive, for hobby purposes, which I suspect is most of the reason to still use a pen plotter. Large paper (maybe you can use the current inkjet ones), expensive pens that you go through quickly (I don't know whether they're made anymore, or whether there's a viable DIY way to keep them refilled and working, or to adapt current off-the-shelf non-plotter pens…

The original pens are, AFAICT, somewhat hard to come by, but we modded the pen carousel and have a 3d printed holder to put more modern pens in. With this mod, the TCO doesn't seem to high, although I didn't initially purchase/set it up, and I haven't had to do serious maintenance yet.

Re: Plotty Bird: flappy bird on the HP7440A pen plotter

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Yet another fun reason to get a pen plotter!! It seems that there are plenty of examples on eBay, maybe even if it doesn't work a retrofit would be a fun project?

A pen plotter is just a 3D printer with a very short Z axis and a pen instead of a hotend. Should be pretty easy to build one cheaply.

The toolchanger in the video is very nifty, though. Not an essential feature in my opinion, and no doubt the most difficult and expensive part.

Re: Plotty Bird: flappy bird on the HP7440A pen plotter

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This, and everything else in the #plottertwitter hashtag, seems super cool. Are there any good resources for exploring this space and getting into it?

If you're interested in algorithmic drawing, https://turtletoy.net is a nice little toy to play around in and it uses the same primitive operations as most plotters (pen up and down, move to coordinate). One popular plotter is AxiDraw which can be controlled in a multitude of ways including an Inkscape plugin and a REST-API.

Re: Plotty Bird: flappy bird on the HP7440A pen plotter

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post #11

The most insane device in this vein IMO is the Panasonic Penwriter. It's a four color typewriter (!) and plotter. Yes. It was using pens to write whatever you typed. And this was in 1985! If it'd been more reliable (surprise: it wasn't) it would've taken the world by storm. (I think Brother had one too.) Lately someone worked it out how to connect it to a modern PC. https://retrocomputing.stackexchange.com/a/7936/372…

I'm sad to find there aren't any videos on YouTube of this Panasonic Penwriter printing something. If you or anyone you know has access to one of these device then please consider sharing a video!

Here's another review from an old electronics magazine, it's in page 49 of the PDF: https://www.americanradiohistory.com/Archive-Hands-On-Electr...

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