I guess in terms of game development, Stadia will be like GitHub. As a service though, we'll see. Their reveal stream kept crashing, and there was noticeable lag during their initial GDC presentation.
Could you explain what you mean by "like GitHub"?
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Except Valve could issue a final update that disables the DRM Check, and the game is still playable locally, right? More likely than Stadia developing a local client to sync game content/licenses to.
Valve doesn’t have the right to do this. They have an agreement with publishers that they will supply it.
Is there any sort of survivability clause in that agreement? Genuinely asking - not directly familiar with it.
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#313I just don't see how they are going to compete with Microsoft on this, or Sony for that matter. I can't help but think this will be killed off in the next 2-3 years due to low adoption. Microsoft and Sony already have their foot in the door, and xCloud is supposedly going to be an E3 topic...and I'm sure they will bundle it with existing Xbox Live services for a bump in price. Google has proven me wrong in the past,…
I wonder where the ads come in. I can imagine creating an ad network and placements in-game, which would then let them offer the product for free/cheap to users, and pay a cut of the money to game creators who hook up the placements.
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> which they don't have, Can't directly refute this, but wouldn't you think GCP is peered with the vast majority of local ISPs (in America and maybe the EU)?
No. I don't not believe they've done this. They don't peer easily or often and peering with local partners is not something most people want to do, even Google. It takes trust on the part of the local service provider, which Google hasn't built as Google is often a direct competitor to their local products. Peering at the ISP level is really hard because it's all relationship management. Google couldn't manage their…
https://peering.google.com/#/infrastructure send to say otherwise. It's in the best interest of both parties, so not sure why they wouldn't have done this.
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They suffer from uneven or inconsistent input-to-display latency. If Stadia can give everyone the same, (hopefully) modest amount of latency, the games remain as fair as they ever were
I'm not entirely sure, but you may have misunderstood my point. It's not about fairness, it's about whether it is physically possible to play the game on the same level of skill. Talking about shooters, in the traditional multiplayer setup input-to-display latency isn't actually a concern, because input-to-display doesn't go over the network at all. When you move your mouse, the display update loop doesn't contain a…
If you have If it creeps up into the 40's and 50's though, it will for sure.
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#316By definition every game requires 'decent' internet. The fact they will still charge full price for the games and games you could've bought on disc or steam before are now 'internet required' ... means I'm out. Not just for the premium version but for the hardware and free versions as well.. After Google Wave and Google Reader ~ I'm not going to invest solid dollars vs hardware on premises.
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#317If I buy a game on PS4, I can be reasonably confident it will continue working for as long as my PS4 physically continues to work. And then I can sell it when I'm finished playing it.
I don't understand why I'd want to buy a game on stadia instead for the same price, not have the opportunity to resell it, and be at the mercy of Google shutting down the stadia servers whenever they feel like it.
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#318Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. I don't not believe they've done this. They don't peer easily or often and peering with local partners is not something most people want to do, even Google. It takes trust on the part of the local service provider, which Google hasn't built as Google is often a direct competitor to their local products. Peering at the ISP level is really hard because it's all relationship management. Google couldn't manage their…
https://peering.google.com/#/infrastructure send to say otherwise. It's in the best interest of both parties, so not sure why they wouldn't have done this.
Interesting information. There's definitely a bit of marketing going on there, but it seems that they have at least some peering. Without concrete public evidence otherwise I'll concede that Google must have great peering.
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... Does Google not have any data centers in Australia? (Granted, it isn't a given that Stadia might run out of those DCs, but with Borg, I don't see why they couldn't.)
That won't help. The connection to your house in Australia is using ancient copper lines that is all rotted out and stops working in the rain. In absolute best case conditions you could use this service but most of the country would struggle to stream 1080p reliably. The internet upgrade in Australia (NBN) is well known as the biggest government fuck up in the last 20 years.
> and stops working in the rain
For anyone who thinks this is hyperbole, I assure you it's not, my internet quite literally grinds to a halt when it rains too much.
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#320And the betting on when this product will be shut down by Google has already begun...right now 3 years is the choice with the most money behind it. Some fools are guessing Google may give this as much as 5 years. Given Google's abysmal history of supporting its software and hardware products, see e.g., the Nest fiasco from a few weeks ago, only a fool or someone with cash to waste would invest in a Google hardware de…
Google has a habit of getting bored of a service or, if it's not doing too well, just switching it off. Can you assure people that if they spend money on Stadia games, they are still going to have access to them in the coming years? I completely understand the question. I think there's a couple of things I would answer to that. One is our commitment to this business is extraordinary. If you look at the list of games,…
"If you look at the list of apps, and crucially, the list of developers that are backing Android wear, you can see the level of interest and support. Google is committed to this for the long term, we have made very significant financial investments in this. And we have an incredibly dedicated team who is helping to make Android Wear reality." Google, 2014, probably.
Words are very cheap.