Anyone know of a "how will Stadia perform on my ISP" check (all I see is a bandwidth check, which is not the same)? I'm not expecting anything (I'm on average 50ms ping to servers, 120ms ping if you include processing on the remote end), but it would be good to have confirmation. I'm also disappointed by the dramatic extension of the "you don't own the games you buy", since there's not even an option to download the…
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#163I just don't see how they are going to compete with Microsoft on this, or Sony for that matter. I can't help but think this will be killed off in the next 2-3 years due to low adoption. Microsoft and Sony already have their foot in the door, and xCloud is supposedly going to be an E3 topic...and I'm sure they will bundle it with existing Xbox Live services for a bump in price. Google has proven me wrong in the past,…
If Google delivers a great product here, they'll for sure have a huge number of users IMO.
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#164Discussions around Stadia always fail to mention the alternatives. I've been using GeForce Now with a Nvidia Shield for over a year now and it's been a great experience. The hardware costs are the same as the Stadia ($130), it's free to use while the beta period lasts, and you can play all the games you've already purchased on Steam, BattleNet, Epic etc. in 4k. Why would I buy all the games AGAIN on Stadia when I can…
Stadia can have $0 in additional hardware costs (assuming you already have a computer that runs Chrome). The fact that you already own the games on other platforms doesn't necessarily apply to potential Stadia users. Plus, you're comparing Stadia's release price to GeForce Now's beta price. Not really a fair comparison
I think this also applies to Gefore Now.
> The fact that you already own the games on other platforms doesn't necessarily apply to potential Stadia users.
True, but as long as you have a computer you might be better off buying games on steam because you can always play them offline if you want to in the future, even if the service stops existing.
> Plus, you're comparing Stadia's release price to GeForce Now's beta price. Not really a fair comparison
Stadia isn't even available yet. I guess when Stadia is out and GeForce is out of beta it will be possible to do a better comparison?
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#165$170 base price is a bit odd. Chromecast Ultra is $60, which means they are selling the controller for $110? For comparison, you can get an Xbox or PS controller for ~$60.
Ultra - $60 Controller - $60-70? 3 month Pro Subscription - $30 3 month Pro Sub for a Friend - $30 Destiny 2 Complete Edition - ~$100
So even without taking the game in account you're saving 30% of MSRP
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#166Earlier quoted context omitted.
Microsoft came out of no-where with the original XBox. You had Playstation, Nintendo, and Sega. It can happen, just need the right motivations for customers. And if 5G lives up to it's promises, this will be one of those first great products to take advantage of that extra bandwidth.
Microsoft Xbox persevered only because of Microsoft's deep pockets not because they necessarily did anything different enough to attract gamers. It was not a successful console.
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#167$170 base price is a bit odd. Chromecast Ultra is $60, which means they are selling the controller for $110? For comparison, you can get an Xbox or PS controller for ~$60.
Where do you see $170 base price? It's $130 and includes Ultra - $60 Controller - $60-70? 3 month Pro Subscription - $30 3 month Pro Sub for a Friend - $30 Destiny 2 Complete Edition - ~$100 So even without taking the game in account you're saving 30% of MSRP
Also, you don't get to own Destiny 2, just play it while you have the pro subscription (i.e. similar to Xbox Live Gold benefits).
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#168Discussions around Stadia always fail to mention the alternatives. I've been using GeForce Now with a Nvidia Shield for over a year now and it's been a great experience. The hardware costs are the same as the Stadia ($130), it's free to use while the beta period lasts, and you can play all the games you've already purchased on Steam, BattleNet, Epic etc. in 4k. Why would I buy all the games AGAIN on Stadia when I can…
Have you tried any multiplayer FPS games where latency is very critical? I'm sure both Stadia and GeForce would perform reasonably well for single player and networked coop games but am a little skeptical about real FPS multiplayer games being as good as local games because there are too many variables involved such as other players on the server also need to have as good a connection as you. Very interested in heari…
I'll try some more latency critical games tonight and see how it is, but your assumption that single player and coop games run well is correct. You do get some resolution drops every now and then, but I would imagine this to be the case with any game streaming service.
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#169Discussions around Stadia always fail to mention the alternatives. I've been using GeForce Now with a Nvidia Shield for over a year now and it's been a great experience. The hardware costs are the same as the Stadia ($130), it's free to use while the beta period lasts, and you can play all the games you've already purchased on Steam, BattleNet, Epic etc. in 4k. Why would I buy all the games AGAIN on Stadia when I can…
THis is cool to hear about, since I've been considering an NVidia Shield TV for awhile now for some other use cases. But being able to play my Steam collection, without having a PC around would be awesome, too. In fact, I really don't have much use for my PC anymore, then.
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#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because Microsoft does not have the infrastructure? Azure has more DC and compute power around the world than Google Cloud.
The problem is that Microsoft can't really be taken seriously in the gaming market, or in any consumer space where they might have good or great products but little to zero traction, and Sony doesn't have the network infrastructure.