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Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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Post by snug »

mfatica wrote: post #59
bradenb wrote: post #56

I think this is a pretty reasonable price and I fully expect to pre-order, but I'm disappointed that the games must be purchased a la carte. I'd much rather pay a higher monthly fee and be able to play any games I wanted. I'm not sure how much more I'd be willing to pay, but I just think that purchasing titles that I don't own doesn't fit well with the streaming paradigm.

Yeah agreed, I was expecting streaming to be streaming - I don't purchase individual titles on Netflix. Maybe if it was transferable to PC or another platform I'd be more open to it.

> A free tier will be available some time in 2020, as will a paid subscription tier that doesn't require the upfront purchase.

Wonder if the paid sub won't require a payment for games in the future.

Even with a console you still have to pay to play online, so I don't see this as necessarily a huge problem if I have to pay $10 to get the online aspect and still pay for the games

Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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Post by jefft255 »

octosphere wrote: post #57

I thought Google was just search and a few services like Drive, Docs, Gmail etc Shouldn't Stadia fall under the branch of Alphabet and omit all instances of using 'Google' in their marketing? Why use the Google name for something not remotely related to search?

Google is much more than that; think Google Cloud, which I think this falls into. Also even hardware (Chromecast, Pixel) falls under the Google umbrella!

Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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Post by alekratz »

octosphere wrote: post #57

I thought Google was just search and a few services like Drive, Docs, Gmail etc Shouldn't Stadia fall under the branch of Alphabet and omit all instances of using 'Google' in their marketing? Why use the Google name for something not remotely related to search?

Brand identity, I suspect. They're the only folks in the world who are allowed to (legally) prepend "Google" to a service or product, which is essentially free marketing.

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Post by falcolas »

Anyone know of a "how will Stadia perform on my ISP" check (all I see is a bandwidth check, which is not the same)? I'm not expecting anything (I'm on average 50ms ping to servers, 120ms ping if you include processing on the remote end), but it would be good to have confirmation.

I'm also disappointed by the dramatic extension of the "you don't own the games you buy", since there's not even an option to download the titles and play offline. It gets more worrisome based on Google's demonstrated "go to HN" form of customer support.

Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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Post by crooked-v »

bradenb wrote: post #56

I think this is a pretty reasonable price and I fully expect to pre-order, but I'm disappointed that the games must be purchased a la carte. I'd much rather pay a higher monthly fee and be able to play any games I wanted. I'm not sure how much more I'd be willing to pay, but I just think that purchasing titles that I don't own doesn't fit well with the streaming paradigm.

For me that's an immediate 'nah', because I entirely expect it to suddenly shut down at some point in the future (because, you know, Google).

Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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Post by belltaco »

haolez wrote: post #12

I think that an underestimated benefit of game streaming is anti-cheat. It would benefit a lot games like Fortnite and Pubg.

How so? There are very common aimbots based on computer vision that will work just fine on a PC with Chrome running Stadia games.

Sample naive algo:

-Get a color range (RBG) of the enemy model's head.

-Take screenshot of screen and scan for pixel in that range.

-If match, get the x,y pos of that pixel.

-Set mouse(or controller) pos to that x,y pos.

-Click

E.g https://github.com/Dewep/POC-AimBot-Overwatch

The sample code worked well enough for Blizzard to forcibly take it off the internet.

Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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Post by rhino369 »

mfatica wrote: post #60
octosphere wrote: post #57

I thought Google was just search and a few services like Drive, Docs, Gmail etc Shouldn't Stadia fall under the branch of Alphabet and omit all instances of using 'Google' in their marketing? Why use the Google name for something not remotely related to search?

Because the Google brand is still orders of magnitude more recognized than Alphabet especially in mass market. I would wager a decent chunk of their target audience doesn't even know what Alphabet is

I'm not even sure why they tried to brand a conglomerate holding company anyway.

Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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Post by partiallypro »

I just don't see how they are going to compete with Microsoft on this, or Sony for that matter. I can't help but think this will be killed off in the next 2-3 years due to low adoption. Microsoft and Sony already have their foot in the door, and xCloud is supposedly going to be an E3 topic...and I'm sure they will bundle it with existing Xbox Live services for a bump in price.

Google has proven me wrong in the past, but they've also killed a lot of products like this.

Re: Stadia Founder's Edition

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Post by aroman »

octosphere wrote: post #57

I thought Google was just search and a few services like Drive, Docs, Gmail etc Shouldn't Stadia fall under the branch of Alphabet and omit all instances of using 'Google' in their marketing? Why use the Google name for something not remotely related to search?

Google is way more than search. YouTube, Cloud, Android, and Pixel are all part of Google.
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