How to Draw Animals (1930) • Hacker News Board

Re: How to Draw Animals (1930)

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Post by headsoup » Thu, Jun 06, 2019, 7:16 AM UTC

smackay wrote: post #50

headsoup wrote: post #46

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Well you might as well just show your kid the picture in the book then... You will have many more memorable an enjoyable moments with your kid if you make more walking dolphins rather than just copy pictures :)

When drawing or making things for your kids the drawing or model is the least important thing in the entire process. It's the act and the engagement itself that is the most prized. It works in reverse too.

Exactly, it encourages curiosity and conversation.

Drawing is really interesting in how directly and obviously it makes people feel like a amateur when otherwise experienced and knowledgeable in many areas, and how people generally expect they should be better than they are at it because it 'seems' easy.

Re: How to Draw Animals (1930)

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Post by interfixus » Thu, Jun 06, 2019, 7:18 AM UTC

singlow wrote: post #30

If you, like I did, wish to have all the pages as a single pdf, I grabbed them all and made one [1]. (I just googled and found a simple site to share it on, so if it doesn't work or you have a better suggestion let me know.) [1] https://docdro.id/FFIBIrU

Brilliant, thank you.

Re: How to Draw Animals (1930)

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Post by davidsong » Thu, Jun 06, 2019, 7:19 AM UTC

spectramax wrote: post #24

The fundamental issue that is hardly addressed in drawing by shape recognition is that it gets the proportion right but fails to teach the inherent "3D" structure of the animal. The litmus test for drawing is to ask someone to draw an animal. If they can, great. Follow up and see if that draw the same thing but now in isometric view or from an arbitrary viewpoint/perspective. Imagine if you have a camera with various…

When I was six I learned that variables are little boxes, strings are made of bunting and there was some kind of octopus called INKEY$ that grabbed keys from the keyboard.

I think the most important thing to learn is enthusiasm, if you've not got that then proper methods are of no use. This book looks like it'll be great tool for nurturing that.

Re: How to Draw Animals (1930)

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Post by Yajirobe » Thu, Jun 06, 2019, 7:20 AM UTC

pravj wrote: post #43

seeken wrote: post #19

We play a great party game called 'Six Second Animals.' The caller names an animal and counts down from 6. Other players draw the animal. The caller picks a favorite and that drawer becomes caller.

Neat! check out Google's Quick Draw [1] where you need to draw a given object in 20 seconds and a neural network will recognize what you're drawing. [1] https://quickdraw.withgoogle.com/

I mean it literally asks you to draw the thing to be recognized.

It would be more impressive if you were to draw freely and the neural network would recognize whatever you drew.

Re: How to Draw Animals (1930)

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Post by z3t4 » Thu, Jun 06, 2019, 7:24 AM UTC

Drawing, like m

Re: How to Draw Animals (1930)

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Post by z3t4 » Thu, Jun 06, 2019, 7:28 AM UTC

Drawing like most things, you get better by training. Once you can do basic shapes and features you can also start to free draw which is fun and also still useful in this age as you can make decent looking illustrations in order to explain stuff.

Re: How to Draw Animals (1930)

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Post by davidsong » Thu, Jun 06, 2019, 7:32 AM UTC

singlow wrote: post #30

If you, like I did, wish to have all the pages as a single pdf, I grabbed them all and made one [1]. (I just googled and found a simple site to share it on, so if it doesn't work or you have a better suggestion let me know.) [1] https://docdro.id/FFIBIrU

Thanks for doing this.

It's a pretty big file, so I compressed it down to 11mb:

https://www.docdroid.net/A5g0tzk/les-animaux-compressed.pdf

Re: How to Draw Animals (1930)

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Post by wirrbel » Thu, Jun 06, 2019, 7:37 AM UTC

singlow wrote: post #30

If you, like I did, wish to have all the pages as a single pdf, I grabbed them all and made one [1]. (I just googled and found a simple site to share it on, so if it doesn't work or you have a better suggestion let me know.) [1] https://docdro.id/FFIBIrU

Thanks for posting this. On the last pages it is said to be licensed under Creative Comments Share alike. I'd assume that the content might still be copyright protected by the original creator? So I don't think that anyone can relicense it as simple as that.

I don't have a moral problem appropriating content that has been published 90 years ago. I don't think it is appropriate to assign it a Commons license though.

Re: How to Draw Animals (1930)

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Post by cpa » Thu, Jun 06, 2019, 7:42 AM UTC

DoreenMichele wrote: post #6

The site is in French. It's possibly "blog spam" in that it points to another French site as the original source: https://bibigreycat.blogspot.com/search/label/dessiner?updat... On both sites, the images can be clicked to enlarge them. You probably don't need to know any French to figure that out, but I thought I would mention it in case it was helpful to someone. Edit: This info is from the top of the article: sur l…

And the URL means "draw in elementary school" in French.

Re: How to Draw Animals (1930)

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Post by tobltobs » Thu, Jun 06, 2019, 7:45 AM UTC

headsoup wrote: post #45

lxe wrote: post #40

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This is peak Hacker News. Here we have a children’s book about drawing cats using circles. You’re critiquing it for failing to teach how to internalize the 3-d structure of skeletons.

It does the old 'now draw the rest of the f'ing Owl' meme, which can only hurt the kid's self-esteem when their drawings don't match the end result (reflects my personal experience when I used 'how to draw animals' books as a kid). Use this if you just want to draw some random things for fun, but stay clear if you want to learn to draw (or want your kid to). It's an 'activity book,' not a how to draw book. And I thin…

You just put a glacier on top of the HN peak.