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Arc.io – A Crowdfunded Distributed CDN

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Re: Arc.io – A Crowdfunded Distributed CDN

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Post by hueving »

PatrolX wrote: post #22
etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #13

So... Hetzner bandwidth is $0.00112/GB, almost 18x cheaper than arc.io ( https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Traffic/en ) And Hetzner is a no-nonsense real company that's been around since 1997. Hetzner machines have dedicated 1Gbps connections. Arc.io promises nothing. Arc.io is a faceless company with no track record, no history, and doesn't say how long they've been around. Who would you choose?

More importantly the performance of Arc.io website is dreadful. If you're going to sell high-performance then you should at least make your own website perform well. If your website performs well then I'm more likely to believe your story.

If you think performance problems mean a bad CDN, you're probably not the target audience.

Re: Arc.io – A Crowdfunded Distributed CDN

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Post by MentallyRetired »

MentallyRetired wrote: post #2

Interesting. How does this affect GDPR? Are we using & monetizing customers' bandwidth without their permission?

Why is this downvoted? What the hell, hn? Mine are legit questions. The latter is true, right? Arc is monetizing visitors bandwidth. Is this not an ethical gray area?

Re: Arc.io – A Crowdfunded Distributed CDN

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Post by paulcarroty »

etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #13

So... Hetzner bandwidth is $0.00112/GB, almost 18x cheaper than arc.io ( https://wiki.hetzner.de/index.php/Traffic/en ) And Hetzner is a no-nonsense real company that's been around since 1997. Hetzner machines have dedicated 1Gbps connections. Arc.io promises nothing. Arc.io is a faceless company with no track record, no history, and doesn't say how long they've been around. Who would you choose?

Hetzner storage are slow as shit and not reliable, I recommend to avoid it.

Re: Arc.io – A Crowdfunded Distributed CDN

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Post by tiernano »

ipsum2 wrote: post #12
namibj wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still 2x compared to backblaze b2. E.g., it better have good performance.

backblaze b2 is not a CDN.

Not directly, no, but stick Cloudflare in front and now you have a cdn that the storage is cheap and depending on tier you pick, cdn is free. Even the bandwidth from b2 to Cloudflare is free.

Re: Arc.io – A Crowdfunded Distributed CDN

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Post by dkh »

Appears to just be using webtorrent, though this does not seem to be mentioned. It's a clever technology, but also has limitations and compatibility concerns.

I'm not sure what other optimizations they're doing or what guarantees it has. Wish they had a page with more complex assets being delivered via their CDN to test performance. Their own site is being delivered this way, but I don't think that's the use-case. There are many ways to host simple static sites free/cheap -- the big CDN costs often come from media like videos or images, which in addition to being delivered also need to also have very low latency to "feel" fast. (Not sure a jpeg fragmented and delivered over WebRTC is going to outperform a CDN delivering it over a single HTTP request regardless of how fast it is. Adaptive video is also not going to be straightforward.)

Price doesn't seem appealing to me given how it works and how little is explained. But it's a cool concept, and I'm all for new ways to decentralize content and/or save on delivery costs.

Re: Arc.io – A Crowdfunded Distributed CDN

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Post by dkh »

ipsum2 wrote: post #12
namibj wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Still 2x compared to backblaze b2. E.g., it better have good performance.

backblaze b2 is not a CDN.

No, but it's still likely to outperform a system delivering assets over WebRTC from whatever p2p users are serving it up.

Re: Arc.io – A Crowdfunded Distributed CDN

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Post by weego »

etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #27
slips wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would our technological landscape look like currently if everyone was hostile against new companies? Old doesn't mean good.

I don't intend to be mean to new entrants. The crypto/distributed space has an issue with vaporware and not living up to claims. Arc.io has a lot to prove, in other words. I'm hoping users will think twice before using infrastructure that's not ready, or up to par, or not likely to have longevity.

That's a very kind interpretation of the space. I'd have gone with confidence tricksters, frauds and charlatans.
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