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RFC-1149: IP over Avian Carriers
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Re: RFC-1149: IP over Avian Carriers
#42This reminds me of the old saying "never under estimate the through-put of a station wagon full of hard drives". It looks like it has disappeared from the internet but at one time someone had a calculator where you could enter the number of hard drives your station wagon could hold, the size of the hard drives and the time it took to drive across town from data center A to data center B and would tell you what bandwi…
I seem to remember that the old saying comes from Tanenbaum's "Operating Systems Design and Implementation".
Or not?
Re: RFC-1149: IP over Avian Carriers
#43Wasn't there also a DARPA failsafe communication protocol painting digits on the sides of tanks?
Re: RFC-1149: IP over Avian Carriers
#44> Rafting photographers already use pigeons as a sneakernet to transport digital photos on flash media from the camera to the tour operator.[7] Over a 30-mile distance, a single pigeon may be able to carry tens of gigabytes of data in around an hour, which on an average bandwidth basis compares very favorably to current ADSL standards, even when accounting for lost drives. > Inspired by RFC 2549, on 9 September 2009,…
See also the famous quote about the bandwidth of a pickup truck filled with magnetic tape... The modern equivalent would be AWS Snowmobile [0] which is described as follows:
> Each Snowmobile is a secured data truck with up to 100PB storage capacity that can be dispatched to your site and connected directly to your network backbone to perform high-speed data migration
A Wired article [1] calculated the San Francisco to New York bandwidth of a full Snowmobile as just under 5 Tbps which is pretty damn impressive, although the offload network connection on the truck is (only) a 1 Tbps connection. And it gets quite pricey, a fully loaded Snowmobile is USD 500K per month, plus the 350 kW of electricity it needs.
According to the FAQ, if you need more bandwidth, you can operate the Snowmobile trucks in parallel to get multi Exabyte scale data transfers, but I have difficulty imagining any of the use cases that would require that as a solution...?!?
0. https://aws.amazon.com/snowmobile/faqs/
1. https://www.wired.com/2016/12/amazons-snowmobile-actually-tr...
Re: RFC-1149: IP over Avian Carriers
#45In the name of moderation groupthink is being encouraged here!
Re: RFC-1149: IP over Avian Carriers
#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
Considering we actually have internet connected teapots now, I wonder if any mass market products have implemented this.
Nope, they recently removed that status code.
Only from clients supporting HTTP only. Note that RFC 2324 [0] defines the Hyper Text Coffee Pot Control Protocol or HTCPCP, which is an extension of HTTP and implementors of clients for this are free to return 418 if necessary. Also, RFC 7168 [1] which extends the protocol as HTCPCP-TEA now fully supports teapots, and is probably a better choice for modern clients. Also of interest is the SNMP MIB for remote management of 'Drip-Type Heated Beverage Hardware' which is defined in RFC 2325 [2] although this does not appear to have been updated with teapot, samovar, urn or other non-filter-coffee management data...
Implementing tea making device remote management would probably be a good candidate for a GSoC project or even a startup if you can find a VC gullible enough to fund you!
0. https://tools.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2324.txt
Re: RFC-1149: IP over Avian Carriers
#47This reminds me of the old saying "never under estimate the through-put of a station wagon full of hard drives". It looks like it has disappeared from the internet but at one time someone had a calculator where you could enter the number of hard drives your station wagon could hold, the size of the hard drives and the time it took to drive across town from data center A to data center B and would tell you what bandwi…
I seem to remember that the old saying comes from Tanenbaum's "Operating Systems Design and Implementation". Or not?
Close:
> Never underestimate the bandwidth of a station wagon full of tapes hurtling down the highway.
— Tanenbaum, Andrew S. (1989). Computer Networks. New Jersey: Prentice-Hall. p. 57. ISBN 0-13-166836-6.
Re: RFC-1149: IP over Avian Carriers
#48This reminds me of the old saying "never under estimate the through-put of a station wagon full of hard drives". It looks like it has disappeared from the internet but at one time someone had a calculator where you could enter the number of hard drives your station wagon could hold, the size of the hard drives and the time it took to drive across town from data center A to data center B and would tell you what bandwi…
And clearly it still holds true because things like AWS Snowmobile[1] exist.
Re: RFC-1149: IP over Avian Carriers
#49This reminds me of the old saying "never under estimate the through-put of a station wagon full of hard drives". It looks like it has disappeared from the internet but at one time someone had a calculator where you could enter the number of hard drives your station wagon could hold, the size of the hard drives and the time it took to drive across town from data center A to data center B and would tell you what bandwi…
I had an occasion 20-ish years ago to deliver a few DLT tape drives and a bunch of cartridges to a Customer. Before I left we calculated the capacity of a 1995 Geo Metro as a unit of backup media, and the effective throughput from our shop to the Customer at various driving speeds in bits-per-second. It was an odd trip thinking about my speed in Mbps.
Today, or course, it would be a Chevy Spark stuffed with micro-SD cards... >smile<
Re: RFC-1149: IP over Avian Carriers
#50summary: ``` The IP datagram is printed, on a small scroll of paper, in hexadecimal, with each octet separated by whitestuff and blackstuff. The scroll of paper is wrapped around one leg of the avian carrier. A band of duct tape is used to secure the datagram's edges. The bandwidth is limited to the leg length. The MTU is variable, and paradoxically, generally increases with increased carrier age. A typical MTU is 25…
This is an abomination on mobile. Who can fix this presentation trap sooooo many people fall into?