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Re: macOS deprecating scripting language runtimes, including Python, Ruby, and Perl

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No - the problem with the misc other interpreters is that they don’t provide sufficient binary stability for Apple to simply include the newest one in every update (which I suspect they would happily do). They’re not removing the commandline (although moving to zsh? :-/), or banning interpreters. They’re just not including them built into the os anymore. As for the AppleScript and JavaScript questions: Apple makes th…

I think you read more into my question than what I meant. I was asking literally about the best way to install it was without a system level ruby. Once you have homebrew, you can install ruby; but what about before that? Download and install ruby from ruby-lang.org, install homebrew and a brewed ruby, then uninstall the one from ruby-lang.org?

Macports works and has updated versions of ruby.

Re: macOS deprecating scripting language runtimes, including Python, Ruby, and Perl

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Wait.. So I'll have to install Ruby before I can install Brew? Ok. Ruined 2 minutes of my day.

Except it’ll be the latest, and then easily updatable after that.

Expect package installers that make the whole thing easier and more secure (signed packages vs a curl | /bin/sh)

Re: macOS deprecating scripting language runtimes, including Python, Ruby, and Perl

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macOS has a native hypervisor framework, Docker and xhyve uses it. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/hypervisor https://github.com/moby/hyperkit

In other words, nothing serious. Does anyone actually use Docker on Mac? Xhyve is more of a proof-of-concept than a production-ready tool.

I use Docker on Mac, and know many others who do as well.

Re: macOS deprecating scripting language runtimes, including Python, Ruby, and Perl

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macOS has a native hypervisor framework, Docker and xhyve uses it. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/hypervisor https://github.com/moby/hyperkit

In other words, nothing serious. Does anyone actually use Docker on Mac? Xhyve is more of a proof-of-concept than a production-ready tool.

> Does anyone actually use Docker on Mac?

What? We use it at work every day for local development, and my previous employer did as well. It has issues, definitely, but they have more to do with Docker than with xhyve.

Re: macOS deprecating scripting language runtimes, including Python, Ruby, and Perl

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macOS has a native hypervisor framework, Docker and xhyve uses it. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/hypervisor https://github.com/moby/hyperkit

In other words, nothing serious. Does anyone actually use Docker on Mac? Xhyve is more of a proof-of-concept than a production-ready tool.

> Does anyone actually use Docker on Mac?

I use it extensively. It is a desktop product however; it you aren't expected to put a swarm of MacBook pros into production.

Re: macOS deprecating scripting language runtimes, including Python, Ruby, and Perl

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macOS has a native hypervisor framework, Docker and xhyve uses it. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/hypervisor https://github.com/moby/hyperkit

In other words, nothing serious. Does anyone actually use Docker on Mac? Xhyve is more of a proof-of-concept than a production-ready tool.

I personally know of at least 3 or 4 engineering teams of 30+ developers who use it daily.

Re: macOS deprecating scripting language runtimes, including Python, Ruby, and Perl

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I think that's ok, most everyone installs homebrew

Right, but homebrew is written in Ruby. So there’ll need to be some more bootstrapping stages to install a recent Ruby first. Although it looks like they’ve got a plan: https://twitter.com/machomebrew/status/1136249501252038662?s...

Re: macOS deprecating scripting language runtimes, including Python, Ruby, and Perl

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macOS has a native hypervisor framework, Docker and xhyve uses it. https://developer.apple.com/documentation/hypervisor https://github.com/moby/hyperkit

In other words, nothing serious. Does anyone actually use Docker on Mac? Xhyve is more of a proof-of-concept than a production-ready tool.

Xhyve is but one of the options for fronting hypervisor.framework.

Calling it “not serious” is quite wrong.

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