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Re: GitHub removes 5 years of One Hour One Life designer's work

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Post by dTal »

Retra wrote: post #104
rootlocus wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. That's not how the implication operator works 2. You don't necessary have to agree with the premise, but you're proposing it because you think the other person agrees with it.

Of course, there's a good chance the person you're talking to will not see it that way, instead making the same mistake dTal did.

I wouldn't call it a mistake. It definitely comes across as hypocritical, whether or not it "technically" is. You're essentially saying "I recognize this trait as valuable, however I reject your right to judge me on it".

Re: GitHub removes 5 years of One Hour One Life designer's work

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Post by dTal »

enriquto wrote: post #67
dTal wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That particular phrasing comes across a mite hypocritical - if you admit that having a well-kept garden makes one a good neighbor, then you are admitting that your unkempt garden makes you a bad neighbor.

> if you admit that having a well-kept garden makes one a good neighbor, then you are admitting that your unkempt garden makes you a bad neighbor. No, you aren't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent

This isn't formal logic - it's basic reciprocal socialization. Humans believe in holding everyone to similar standards as a basic principle ("fairness"). You are simultaneously reaffirming your neighbor's standards for themselves, and rejecting them for yourself. This will be seen as hypocritical, and in the real world, if you try to defend this behavior by citing the Wikipedia article on "Affirming the consequent", you will rapidly find yourself on your neighbor's mental "pedantic asshole" list.

Re: GitHub removes 5 years of One Hour One Life designer's work

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Post by uponcoffee »

millisecond wrote: post #85

The frustrating thing to me is that this guy will get this solved and we’ll all move on. He’s reasonably well known and had enough Twitter juice to get attention. All the small people who end up in this situation, whatever it truly is, without those resources will remain screwed.

I get what you're saying, and agree to a degree.

On the other hand this is like not backing up your hard drive. Having a single point of failure and expecting anything less is...

Like you said, he's big enough to shout into the abyss and get a response, while others have to accept that a single point of failure is exactly that.

If we changed the headline to hacker deletes '5 years worth of work', the response would be different; two-factor should have been enabled, should have used a strong password, one password per account, yubi-key, etc. The onus would have been on the developer.

There are plenty of free hosting services for repos, so there's no reason IMO to not maintain a mirror.

Re: GitHub removes 5 years of One Hour One Life designer's work

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Post by rootlocus »

dTal wrote: post #112
enriquto wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if you admit that having a well-kept garden makes one a good neighbor, then you are admitting that your unkempt garden makes you a bad neighbor. No, you aren't. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affirming_the_consequent

This isn't formal logic - it's basic reciprocal socialization. Humans believe in holding everyone to similar standards as a basic principle ("fairness"). You are simultaneously reaffirming your neighbor's standards for themselves, and rejecting them for yourself. This will be seen as hypocritical, and in the real world, if you try to defend this behavior by citing the Wikipedia article on "Affirming the consequent",…

TL;DR Yeah, but I don't care.

> You are simultaneously reaffirming your neighbor's standards for themselves, and rejecting them for yourself.

Yes, because we are complex, subjective, multidimensional humans, and we can judge each other based on different referential systems. If I don't care about your subjective perspective, I don't have to prove myself in your eyes. And if I don't care what your referential system is then I'm only a hypocrite in your eyes.

- You have a clean yard, you must be a good person. I have a messy yard, but I like it / I don't care. I can still be a good person for other reasons, but I don't care to be that person in your eyes. I do care that you're pestering me with comments, so please stop.

Re: GitHub removes 5 years of One Hour One Life designer's work

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Post by ncmncm »

JacobDotVI wrote: post #101
animal531 wrote: post #82

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Dandelions used to be both cultivated and consumed, it is only in modern times that we've decided it's a weed.

I have often purchased dandelion greens at my local farmer’s market - they are great sautéed!

Be sure to harvest when they're new. They turn tough and bitter with age.

Like us.

Re: GitHub removes 5 years of One Hour One Life designer's work

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Post by kevin_b_er »

narrowtux wrote: post #47

According to an earlier tweet [1], the reports are from users who are mad they were banned from his discord server. > Actually, it seems like this "report" to discord came on the heels of us banning a member for posting offensive content. That member then, to seek revenge, reported the entire server to Discord, and told us about it. Nice. I've experienced similar immature behaviour in the Minecraft community back whe…

Mass Reporting to trigger automated systems has become a great way to silence your enemies. Note how discord did not explain jack squat about where this content was. Just an ultimatum to remove abstractly bad content with a deadline. All from mass reporting.

Re: GitHub removes 5 years of One Hour One Life designer's work

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Post by kevin_b_er »

_bxg1 wrote: post #103
narrowtux wrote: post #47

According to an earlier tweet [1], the reports are from users who are mad they were banned from his discord server. > Actually, it seems like this "report" to discord came on the heels of us banning a member for posting offensive content. That member then, to seek revenge, reported the entire server to Discord, and told us about it. Nice. I've experienced similar immature behaviour in the Minecraft community back whe…

And how was there no system in place to prevent one disgruntled person from taking down someone else's entire project on a whim, without evidence?

And if they'd just found a few buddies to also spam Reports would that have made it any better?

Re: GitHub removes 5 years of One Hour One Life designer's work

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Post by arkades »

yeldarb wrote: post #109
arkades wrote: post #106

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Or host your backups on DigitalOcean.

Maybe not the best choice in light of them deleting this guy’s entire app, db, and backups the other day: https://twitter.com/w3Nicolas/status/1134529316904153089

Yeah, I didn’t miss that. I was being snarky.
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