Multi-account containers is probably why I won't leave Firefox. I have different containers for Facebook and all its websites(instagram, whatsapp), google, amazon, Microsoft.
isn't that the same as the Person profiles in Chrome?
Firefox Now Available with Enhanced Tracking Protection by Default
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#192I can proudly say that I’ve ditched Chrome for Firefox for about a month now. The first few days were a little rough (migrating passwords and what not), but now I love it. Keep up the good work FF!
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#193Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sorry, but as a web user I never signed up for stalking by site owners, nor did I sign up to be stalked across sites by their advertisers. I certainly didn't sign up to let you co-opt my computer to do this. You're going to have to live with it. Get some beta testers onboard maybe.
Actually you did, because the world does not exist to serve you, it's a mutual transaction between two parties. Websites need to make money and understand how users are using their service so they can survive and improve. 99% of the data anyone is collecting which you call "stalking" is either available in server logs or could be easily modified so that it was. I guess you might just have to stop using the internet.
Actually I didn't, because it's my device and it will operate how I see fit. This includes not being coopted to spy on me. My only 'contract' with the other party is that I requested some information, and they supplied it. I can render it how I see fit, or not at all.
Websites can find a way to operate without this information stream or go bust, it's no skin off my nose one way or another.
> 99% of the data anyone is collecting which you call "stalking" is either available in server logs
It's very unlikely that server logs will be able to contain mis-clicks and behavioural analytics to the same extent that analytics services use.
> I guess you might just have to stop using the internet
Or, you know, do exactly what the post I replied to was complaining about and use a browser that takes steps to protect my privacy, various blocking plugins etc etc
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#194Unpopular opinion on HN - Majority regular net users don't care about tracking and the FF focus on privacy will not give them the browser landscape they are losing daily. They should be focused on giving a better smooth UI, make it faster, remove unwanted extensions like pocket, make all the sites work. Let's see how valid this comment is in couple of years.
> Majority regular net users don't care about tracking
The majority of regular users don't know the extent to which they are being tracked, because they don't have a good grasp of the technology or a good idea of what's possible.
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#195Earlier quoted context omitted.
They're using privacy to differentiate themselves from Chrome, which will be a sharp contrast once Google cripples adblocking. It seems to be the same move that Apple is pulling with their anonymous login functionality.
Firefox will not going to win with a focus on privacy. Period. It's like a privacy friendly social network can't beat Facebook. Unless Google does something extremely stupid people are going to stick to it. People use Gmail, YouTube, Docs,Google search, Android and all of them are in sync with chrome. It goes hand in hand with your life. Same is for Apple, they make iPhone they have mail they have macos. Everything s…
> People use Gmail, YouTube, Docs,Google search, Android and all of them are in sync with chrome.
In what way are those sites in sync with Chrome? There's sync of tabs and such across devices, but Firefox has that too.
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#196Ironically, it triggers on blog.mozilla.org :/
It's worth noting that this isn't actually inconsistent. If your browser does security properly, blog.mozilla.org saying "here, have some malware" doesn't matter because it will be ignored. If it doesn't , one more website serving (functionality-irrelevant) malware makes it that much marginally more painful to keep using a defective browser.
Wait, are you saying that blog.mozilla.org serves malware?
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#197Earlier quoted context omitted.
> It is funny how my browser preferences has changed over last 5 years. Sure, we're still testing, if stuff works on IE10...
You shouldn't be! Microsoft has deprecated it and that should be reason enough to get your users off it. IE11 isn't much better, though...
Tell that to the banking and medical sector, in the UK NHS would still be using IE6 and WinXP if not they were hacked a year ago with that ransomware from NSA.
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#198It is funny how my browser preferences has changed over last 5 years. 2014 me as a developer had Chrome as number 1 browser for both development and all rest. Firefox once a month just to check cross browser compatibility. And Safari was just installed without me using it. 2019 me uses Safari for everything except development. Excellent power consumption and UX. Firefox for development. And lastly Chrome for all web…
Given the privacy features Apple is introducing they could also put some more resources into making Safari appeal more to developers.
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#199Multi-account containers is probably why I won't leave Firefox. I have different containers for Facebook and all its websites(instagram, whatsapp), google, amazon, Microsoft.
isn't that the same as the Person profiles in Chrome?
No, Profiles are an entirely separate feature that Firefox also has. Setting up separate profiles for every major site could achieve something similar, but that would obviously be unimaginably inconvenient. Containers are like sandboxed virtual browser instances that nullify most methods of cross-site tracking, while also enabling you to conveniently stay logged in to all of your sites. Switching between the containers is seamless, and does not require any conscious user action apart from initially setting them up. Plus, the real kicker is using Temporary Containers as the default setting for new tabs, which can make it as if every Google search or inconsequential browsing session is done in a Private Window instance. This means there's no way in terms of cookies and trackers for Google to obtain cumulative data about your searches and browsing habits, but you can safely keep local records of your history if you want. There's no way to achieve any of this in Chrome with anything approaching the same level of simplicity or convenience.
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#200Earlier quoted context omitted.
isn't that the same as the Person profiles in Chrome?
No, Profiles are an entirely separate feature that Firefox also has. Setting up separate profiles for every major site could achieve something similar, but that would obviously be unimaginably inconvenient. Containers are like sandboxed virtual browser instances that nullify most methods of cross-site tracking, while also enabling you to conveniently stay logged in to all of your sites. Switching between the containe…
How so? This is exactly what personal profiles do. Keeping a separate cookie jar, local storage, history, extensions. Basically only the browser version and OS related stuff is left to track you. Ok, except if Google tracks browser usage directly. I've been using separate profile for each of the evil websites I have to use, no cookie leaking.