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Firefox Now Available with Enhanced Tracking Protection by Default

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Re: Firefox Now Available with Enhanced Tracking Protection by Default

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Post by matheussampaio »

ken wrote: post #160
rukshn wrote: post #155

Unpopular opinion on HN - Majority regular net users don't care about tracking and the FF focus on privacy will not give them the browser landscape they are losing daily. They should be focused on giving a better smooth UI, make it faster, remove unwanted extensions like pocket, make all the sites work. Let's see how valid this comment is in couple of years.

Agreed (except for those specific examples). User experience is the gateway drug. As long as the standard keyboard shortcuts and preferences panel don't work right in Firefox, it doesn't matter how fast or standards-compliant the HTML rendering engine is. Privacy is vegetables -- I know I should eat more, but I'm not going to go out of my way for it.

A lot of people eat vegetables tho.

Re: Firefox Now Available with Enhanced Tracking Protection by Default

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Post by bad_user »

PatrolX wrote: post #34

I've dumped Chrome altogether since FF 67 was released. My only gripe is they still aren't blocking ALL ads, but regardless it's a way better user experience now than it ever was. Firefox 67 feels like a whole new beast compared to their older versions. If you haven't tried FF for a while I recommend doing so and I suggest trying it across multiple devices. The tab management, syncing, pinning and sending etc. across…

Firefox doesn’t block ads by default, but you can install uBlock Origin, the best ad blocker available.

I also recommend Privacy Badger. It’s a neat extension that automatically detects trackers by auto-learning. This means that Privacy Badger will catch trackers that aren’t caught by static lists, like what Firefox and uBlock Origin are doing.

Btw, both these extensions I mentioned are now deprecated in Chrome due to Manifest V3 and something tells me they’ll always be at home in Firefox ;-)

Re: Firefox Now Available with Enhanced Tracking Protection by Default

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Post by MH15 »

whizzkid wrote: post #4

It is funny how my browser preferences has changed over last 5 years. 2014 me as a developer had Chrome as number 1 browser for both development and all rest. Firefox once a month just to check cross browser compatibility. And Safari was just installed without me using it. 2019 me uses Safari for everything except development. Excellent power consumption and UX. Firefox for development. And lastly Chrome for all web…

I've stayed with Safari for all web browsing mainly due to it's fantastic power consumption. Still use Chrome for development, but I find Safari's UX so compelling I'll still have it open for reference.

Safari needs a duplicate tab button though.

Re: Firefox Now Available with Enhanced Tracking Protection by Default

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Post by mobjack »

Jonanin wrote: post #103

I like these updates just as much as everyone else, but I can't help but think they seem a little bit like biting the hand that feeds you. What will they do when Google decides against renewing their Firefox search contract? Mozilla is highly dependent on the hundreds of million of dollars this contract provides. The politics of this situation are interesting for sure.

Google makes lots of money from search ads from Firefox users.

Even with these changes, there are still lots of ways for Google to track you and monetize ads.

Re: Firefox Now Available with Enhanced Tracking Protection by Default

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Post by heyoni »

MH15 wrote: post #163
whizzkid wrote: post #4

It is funny how my browser preferences has changed over last 5 years. 2014 me as a developer had Chrome as number 1 browser for both development and all rest. Firefox once a month just to check cross browser compatibility. And Safari was just installed without me using it. 2019 me uses Safari for everything except development. Excellent power consumption and UX. Firefox for development. And lastly Chrome for all web…

I've stayed with Safari for all web browsing mainly due to it's fantastic power consumption. Still use Chrome for development, but I find Safari's UX so compelling I'll still have it open for reference. Safari needs a duplicate tab button though.

That and a way to turn off transition animations...

Re: Firefox Now Available with Enhanced Tracking Protection by Default

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Post by rukshn »

m45t3r wrote: post #158
rukshn wrote: post #155

Unpopular opinion on HN - Majority regular net users don't care about tracking and the FF focus on privacy will not give them the browser landscape they are losing daily. They should be focused on giving a better smooth UI, make it faster, remove unwanted extensions like pocket, make all the sites work. Let's see how valid this comment is in couple of years.

Firefox is fast enough for most people, it has a UI as good as Chrome (that maybe is shit for some people, however most people don't care), most people don't care if Pocket is included or not (it is not like Firefox keeps nagging you to use it either). The only point I concur with you is that all sites should work, however the majority of times I see a site broken in Firefox is because of the developer not testing in…

Why should the developers worry about a browser that is only covering 10% as I remember that is the cover ? Specially if you have a small team who has time and people to make multiple versions to run on different browsers?

You can just put a banner saying this website works well on chrome.

FF should be more active in making all the sites work on their browser.

Re: Firefox Now Available with Enhanced Tracking Protection by Default

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Post by rukshn »

victor9000 wrote: post #159
rukshn wrote: post #155

Unpopular opinion on HN - Majority regular net users don't care about tracking and the FF focus on privacy will not give them the browser landscape they are losing daily. They should be focused on giving a better smooth UI, make it faster, remove unwanted extensions like pocket, make all the sites work. Let's see how valid this comment is in couple of years.

They're using privacy to differentiate themselves from Chrome, which will be a sharp contrast once Google cripples adblocking. It seems to be the same move that Apple is pulling with their anonymous login functionality.

Firefox will not going to win with a focus on privacy. Period.

It's like a privacy friendly social network can't beat Facebook.

Unless Google does something extremely stupid people are going to stick to it.

People use Gmail, YouTube, Docs,Google search, Android and all of them are in sync with chrome. It goes hand in hand with your life.

Same is for Apple, they make iPhone they have mail they have macos. Everything sync with safari. Makes life easy.

What does Firefox offer? Only a browser. And privacy is not going make people switch to them.

Re: Firefox Now Available with Enhanced Tracking Protection by Default

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Post by dwaite »

ViViDboarder wrote: post #143
gruez wrote: post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the attacker manages to get malware on the mac, they can also wait for you to do a login, and steal your 2fa code as you enter it.

Or just steal your session tokens. Not all apps are secure enough to prevent session roaming.

Or just remote drive your session. Token exfiltration isn't required if you can do XSS or say script injection via browser extensions (and exfiltration is more likely to hit anomaly/fraud detection)

Re: Firefox Now Available with Enhanced Tracking Protection by Default

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Post by robin_reala »

j-conn wrote: post #93
whizzkid wrote: post #4

It is funny how my browser preferences has changed over last 5 years. 2014 me as a developer had Chrome as number 1 browser for both development and all rest. Firefox once a month just to check cross browser compatibility. And Safari was just installed without me using it. 2019 me uses Safari for everything except development. Excellent power consumption and UX. Firefox for development. And lastly Chrome for all web…

Personal use aside, I've been meaning to try out firefox for development after seeing some of their release announcements here. Any tips for people like me who are accustomed to chrome devtools? Are there some things you can do in firefox that you can't in chrome, and vice versa? I do look forward to the chrome devtools release videos, always learn something new.

Firefox in general has much better CSS debugging, and somewhat less good JS debugging. If you’re going to try it out then I’d suggest looking into its grid / flexbox visualisation.
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