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NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

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Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

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Oh look it's Tom Spark - TorGuard Affiliate Number: #4374 You're not biased at all are you Mr. TorGuard Affiliate? Mr. TorGuard Affiliate that lists only one VPN (TorGuard) on his website as "God Tier", what a joke.

Here, watch this you troll: https://youtu.be/ppbZ3tFQ1ts

Troll? Nah, I'm stating a fact. You're a TorGuard affiliate, your affiliate ID is #4374 and you try to hide the fact by using bit.ly links to mask your affiliate number.

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

#142

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Yeah, everyone who disputes your dubious paid endorsement of TorGuard as perfect/"GOD-tier", despite undisputable evidence to the contrary like having mediocrely rated apps, is obviously shilling for their competitors. Give me a break...

FACT: Tom Spark is a TorGuard shill. Affiliate #4374.

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

#144

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Here, watch this you troll: https://youtu.be/ppbZ3tFQ1ts

Troll? Nah, I'm stating a fact. You're a TorGuard affiliate, your affiliate ID is #4374 and you try to hide the fact by using bit.ly links to mask your affiliate number.

https://youtu.be/ppbZ3tFQ1ts

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

#145

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Yeah, everyone who disputes your dubious paid endorsement of TorGuard as perfect/"GOD-tier", despite undisputable evidence to the contrary like having mediocrely rated apps, is obviously shilling for their competitors. Give me a break...

FACT: Tom Spark is a TorGuard shill. Affiliate #4374.

https://youtu.be/ppbZ3tFQ1ts

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

#146
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The OP here is a co-founder of PIA, and IIRC he was behind a lot of the ProtonVPN and NordVPN controversy that is being cited in the link he provided. So basically, he's providing proof that he created a year ago.

> So basically, he's providing proof that he created a year ago. I was able fact-check his claims, since I am from the city where Tesonet is based, and found none of them to be completely false or baseless. It turned out to be an open secret in the local tech community[1]. [1] https://i0.wp.com/vpnscam.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/201...

From what I remember, that PDF was also created by the same guy and shared on several sites. ProtonVPN at least came forward with a chain of evidence for why there would be a connection, even a weak one, but I don't recall NordVPN saying much at the time. Still, the fact that the co-founder of a VPN company is trying to dig up dirt on other VPN companies doesn't make me trust his at all, it just seems shady.

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

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This whole drama (not of the highest quality) should be a big warning for all those naive people (trying hard not to call names) who seem to not completely understand the HUGE trust threats that _all_ VPN services entail. VPN services are black boxes. You have absolutely no idea what they doing in their black boxes despite all their claims. A nice post that sums everything up: https://schub.io/blog/2019/04/08/very-pr…

100% concur to your opinion. Anecdata, but from couple stories from people who worked/interviewed at VPN providers - I believe that in couple years we'll start see same horror stories of private data issues, like we are having with social network and internet ad businesses today. EDIT: apparently my anecdata is not anecdotal [0]. When it's race to the bottom for consumer pricing - your bandwith is resold (or at least…

I'm sure we will, there have already been cases where claims about not keeping logs turned to be plain lies, sure why some wouldn't share their user's habits for further "analysis" for extra profit upon subscriptions.

The plain fact is that you don't know what they are doing, it's impossible to know.

If they ever find a way for an introspective verification/validation of configurations coupled with the connection itself (or whatever mumbo jumbo), then we can talk again about middle-men's trust.

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

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Are there any high quality VPS providers that have a way to sign up and pay anonymously with Monero (or similar), manage via tor browser, etc?

This here is assuming you don't have a nation state actively trying to track you down. Otherwise see [0] One option is to use basically any provider + prepaid visa cards. Just access the website over tor or a VPN you semi trust. Sure it's technically traceable but not without a lot of trouble. Keep in mind that once the VPS provider is issued a subpoena they still have access to your connecting computer's IP. They th…

Wouldn't Tor hide your ip from the VPS provider even if they're subpoena'd?

EDIT: I realized this question might be confusing in this context. I'm not talking about torrenting large files (which you wouldn't want to do over Tor). I'm just wondering if it's possible to run a VPS with 100% anonymity.

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

#149

Had a quick skim; it seems at a glance like someone from TorGuard badmouthed NordVPN on a youtube comment ( sigh ), so NordVPN apparently in response threatened to disclose "trade secret information obtained by NordVPN regarding TorGuard’s systems" it obtained via a hosting provider TorGuard used which is owned by the NordVPN people. This apparently involved some pretty sketchy stuff like sending people to the house…

It's not a YouTube comment. It's my entire channel. They want me to remove NordVPN videos like this one: https://youtu.be/xxwvAjmNec8

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

#150

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Not something that many HN posters will be familiar with, but if you're a holder of significant pieces of ARIN or RIPE IP space, you'll inevitably be approached by a number of suspicious looking companies that want to "rent" your ipv4 space (by the /24 block) for VPN/proxy usage. The end result if you actually fall for their bullshit is that your IP space will be listed in every RBL until the end of time, and will ha…

I'm just curious, do you own/work for a company with a bunch of ip addresses? Or did you buy them for a homelab? Also, is there an "affordable" way to own an IP?

The former. Second question, not really, and you never own an IP, you just have permission from Arin, ripe, apnic, etc to use it.
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