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Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

#131

Post by preommr »

Tomspark wrote: post #129
preommr wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That video raised quite a few red flags with me and don't think that was a good coverage of this controversy. For one thing, I don't think nordvpn would care about the 5k bug bounty. From reading https://restoreprivacy.com/torguard-nordvpn-lawsuit-blackmai... it seems like there are quite a few serious allegations that are so absolutely ridiculous that it has to be nonsense or so ridiculous they're likely to be true.…

They confused two companies in Toronto that are both caused C7. It's an easy mistake to make, and one that was corrected in just a few days. You just posted a link to a blog that rates NordVPN as it's #2 rated VPN, and hasn't even reviewed TorGuard yet, so that source is not credible at all.

> hasn't even reviewed TorGuard yet, so that source is not credible at all

We're not comparing service quality so I don't understand what them not having reviewed TorGuard has to do with anything.

FWIW, I think the link posted was clearer and fairly objective.

I 'll also add that the other video you made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwHssMNEWMg is more useful because it addresses some questions I had like why NordVPN would think to remove your video through TorGuard and if they had reached out to you directly.

All in all, very strange situation and I am interested to see how this pans out.

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

#132

Post by Tomspark »

kristofferR wrote: post #122
knd775 wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not directly accusing you of anything, but you sort of come across as a shill or extreme fanboy of TorGuard. How can you give them 5s across the board? -Speed: During my testing with PIA and TorGuard, PIA was consistently 50% faster. -App: The TorGuard app is lacking in features and poorly designed. -Price: It's substantially more expensive than most providers. -Reputation: They've had not too great a reputation…

Yeah, to still give them 5 stars for reputation after this whole lawsuit fiasco, is absurd. The apps are mediocre at best, rated just 3.1/5: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/torguard-anonymous-vpn-servi... , so if nothing else his app score is clear evidence of him being impartial. According to comments on his review they've also added Google trackers/capchas to their login page, something you wouldn't see on a reputa…

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Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

#133

Post by dontbenebby »

dwater wrote: post #123
dontbenebby wrote: post #83

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I always was a little sketched out by Torguard... much like how Wikileaks piggybacked on Wikipedia, the fact they put "Tor" in their name despite not being affiliated with Tor squicked me out a bit.

https://torguard.net/faq.php Is TorGuard related in any way to the “tor” project? Answer: No, The reference to "tor" in TorGuard relates to "torrents" and guarding one’s privacy when using bitorrent. We are not related in any way to the “tor” project however the company does support through donations.

Burying an entry in a FAQ does not change the fact people may not read said FAQ. Tor predates Torguard. It's perfectly possible people may be misled, especially since both are "privacy tools"

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

#134

Post by knd775 »

Tomspark wrote: post #130
knd775 wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A video of yours that I just watched that attempts to show the "REALLY fast" torrenting speeds shows ubuntu 18.10 downloading at 11.2 MB/s (so ~90 Mb/s) with 2200 seeds (and 98 connected). Is this what I am supposed to be seeing? Is there another video I should watch? I haven't tested with the same file, but I routinely break 150 Mb/s while torrenting through PIA. In regards to price, no one in their right mind shoul…

Good job neglecting everything else I mentioned. TorGuard is still 30$ a year which is vastly cheaper than PIA which doesnt offer discount codes. And no I'm referencing the current 2019 speeds comparing both reviews.

If you pay bi-yearly, PIA is ~$40. A bit more, but it's still faster and has better apps.

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

#135

Post by Tomspark »

preommr wrote: post #131
Tomspark wrote: post #129

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They confused two companies in Toronto that are both caused C7. It's an easy mistake to make, and one that was corrected in just a few days. You just posted a link to a blog that rates NordVPN as it's #2 rated VPN, and hasn't even reviewed TorGuard yet, so that source is not credible at all.

> hasn't even reviewed TorGuard yet, so that source is not credible at all We're not comparing service quality so I don't understand what them not having reviewed TorGuard has to do with anything. FWIW, I think the link posted was clearer and fairly objective. I 'll also add that the other video you made: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwHssMNEWMg is more useful because it addresses some questions I had like why Nor…

It's relevant because RestorePrivacy has a clear bias against TorGuard since it's based within the US. Sven Taylor hasn't reviewed TG yet on purpose, and the fact he mentions 4 year old "VPN.AC" stuff agaisnt TorGuard in the article, just goes to show the article isn't just a news piece but it's obvious he's taking sides. He fails to mention several important bits of information on Nord's response I covered in my video..

News has to be objective. He doesn't mention how A) NordVPN was given a file instead of the file being given to TorGuard first which is extremely weird, B) NordVPN does not mention showing up to TG's house C) Why would NordVPN help TG fix a bug when the two companies have been butting heads for years now? D) NordVPN admits in the blog post that they started the conversation in hope TG would stop "defaming them" which is basically an insinuation of blackmail. E) NordVPN has not denied any actual relationship to Collective Seven yet. I could continue down the alphabet, but you get the picture (watch my video on it).

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

#136

Post by PatrolX »

Tomspark wrote: post #96

Hey guys, Tom Spark here. I'm the video content creator that caused this whole thing. NordVPN hates my channel since I critique and criticize them a lot. They want to censor my channel to remove the bad reviews and so forth (ironic from a VPN company that is suppose to prevent censorship no?). To date, NordVPN is one of the lowest rated VPNs on my VPN tier list at http://vpntierlist.com/ . They are also in the news a…

Oh look it's Tom Spark - TorGuard Affiliate Number: #4374

You're not biased at all are you Mr. TorGuard Affiliate?

Mr. TorGuard Affiliate that lists only one VPN (TorGuard) on his website as "God Tier", what a joke.

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

#137

Post by Tomspark »

PatrolX wrote: post #136
Tomspark wrote: post #96

Hey guys, Tom Spark here. I'm the video content creator that caused this whole thing. NordVPN hates my channel since I critique and criticize them a lot. They want to censor my channel to remove the bad reviews and so forth (ironic from a VPN company that is suppose to prevent censorship no?). To date, NordVPN is one of the lowest rated VPNs on my VPN tier list at http://vpntierlist.com/ . They are also in the news a…

Oh look it's Tom Spark - TorGuard Affiliate Number: #4374 You're not biased at all are you Mr. TorGuard Affiliate? Mr. TorGuard Affiliate that lists only one VPN (TorGuard) on his website as "God Tier", what a joke.

Here, watch this you troll: https://youtu.be/ppbZ3tFQ1ts

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

#138

Post by Tomspark »

knd775 wrote: post #134
Tomspark wrote: post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good job neglecting everything else I mentioned. TorGuard is still 30$ a year which is vastly cheaper than PIA which doesnt offer discount codes. And no I'm referencing the current 2019 speeds comparing both reviews.

If you pay bi-yearly, PIA is ~$40. A bit more, but it's still faster and has better apps.

False. $268.65 3 months free3 + $83.87 per two years.

PIA is $84 for two years.

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

#139

Post by kristofferR »

Tomspark wrote: post #132
kristofferR wrote: post #122

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, to still give them 5 stars for reputation after this whole lawsuit fiasco, is absurd. The apps are mediocre at best, rated just 3.1/5: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/torguard-anonymous-vpn-servi... , so if nothing else his app score is clear evidence of him being impartial. According to comments on his review they've also added Google trackers/capchas to their login page, something you wouldn't see on a reputa…

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Yeah, everyone who disputes your dubious paid endorsement of TorGuard as perfect/"GOD-tier", despite undisputable evidence to the contrary like having mediocrely rated apps, is obviously shilling for their competitors.

Give me a break...

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

#140

Post by Tomspark »

zelon88 wrote: post #67
cyberpunk wrote: post #20

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Reading the parent pdf vs Nord's response [0] I'm slightly more inclined to believe Nords version of events here... 0: https://nordvpn.com/blog/torguard-lawsuit/

But how did NordVPN find a vulnerability in their trash-talking competition in the first place? What were they poking at and whey were they poking it?

Exactly...
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