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Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

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Post by trymas »

safeplanet-fesa wrote: post #75

NordVPN is one of the ugliest in the on its own shady VPN business. They did their best to slowly make the Tesonet scandal slide away. Here on HN some users provided extensive insights about their connections with the Lithuanian data mining company and convincingly demonstrated that NordVPN must be the most evil VPN honeypot and deceiver.

Can you tell more about what is the "Tesonet scandal"?

I've heard such shady stuff about NordVPN that I would never trust them with their data, also would never trust any other VPN provider.

EDIT: I thing I've found it:

https://restoreprivacy.com/lawsuit-names-nordvpn-tesonet/

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17258203

I was informed before not to use NordVPN for their (anecdotal) shady practices, but the fact that ProtonMail is in this crap too - I do not know who to trust anymore when I am buying "privacy" online.

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

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Post by kristofferR »

knd775 wrote: post #118
Tomspark wrote: post #96

Hey guys, Tom Spark here. I'm the video content creator that caused this whole thing. NordVPN hates my channel since I critique and criticize them a lot. They want to censor my channel to remove the bad reviews and so forth (ironic from a VPN company that is suppose to prevent censorship no?). To date, NordVPN is one of the lowest rated VPNs on my VPN tier list at http://vpntierlist.com/ . They are also in the news a…

I'm not directly accusing you of anything, but you sort of come across as a shill or extreme fanboy of TorGuard. How can you give them 5s across the board? -Speed: During my testing with PIA and TorGuard, PIA was consistently 50% faster. -App: The TorGuard app is lacking in features and poorly designed. -Price: It's substantially more expensive than most providers. -Reputation: They've had not too great a reputation…

Yeah, to still give them 5 stars for reputation after this whole lawsuit fiasco, is absurd. The apps are mediocre at best, rated just 3.1/5: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/torguard-anonymous-vpn-servi..., so if nothing else his app score is clear evidence of him being impartial.

According to comments on his review they've also added Google trackers/capchas to their login page, something you wouldn't see on a reputable provider.

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

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Post by dwater »

dontbenebby wrote: post #83
cyberpunk wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reading the parent pdf vs Nord's response [0] I'm slightly more inclined to believe Nords version of events here... 0: https://nordvpn.com/blog/torguard-lawsuit/

I always was a little sketched out by Torguard... much like how Wikileaks piggybacked on Wikipedia, the fact they put "Tor" in their name despite not being affiliated with Tor squicked me out a bit.

https://torguard.net/faq.php

Is TorGuard related in any way to the “tor” project?

Answer: No, The reference to "tor" in TorGuard relates to "torrents" and guarding one’s privacy when using bitorrent. We are not related in any way to the “tor” project however the company does support through donations.

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

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Post by knd775 »

BanazirGalbasi wrote: post #84
rocky1138 wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Private Internet Access. Besides providing great service, they sponsor a lot of free and open source software and services, like Freenode IRC.

Note that this post was submitted to HN by a co-founder of PIA, and they've been known to stir the pot a bit in the past. Last year they put out a few accusations against NordVPN and ProtonVPN that were very weakly supported.

He's also (honestly) the crown prince of Korea , which is kind of crazy to think about.

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

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Post by Tomspark »

knd775 wrote: post #118
Tomspark wrote: post #96

Hey guys, Tom Spark here. I'm the video content creator that caused this whole thing. NordVPN hates my channel since I critique and criticize them a lot. They want to censor my channel to remove the bad reviews and so forth (ironic from a VPN company that is suppose to prevent censorship no?). To date, NordVPN is one of the lowest rated VPNs on my VPN tier list at http://vpntierlist.com/ . They are also in the news a…

I'm not directly accusing you of anything, but you sort of come across as a shill or extreme fanboy of TorGuard. How can you give them 5s across the board? -Speed: During my testing with PIA and TorGuard, PIA was consistently 50% faster. -App: The TorGuard app is lacking in features and poorly designed. -Price: It's substantially more expensive than most providers. -Reputation: They've had not too great a reputation…

Speed - PIA has always been a fast competitor to TorGuard. However, TG is extremely fast for torrenting, like REALLY fast. Test it yourself, or watch my videos.

App - The app's design is fine, a bit old school, but easy to use and updated within the last year. It also has a ton of security features (app + network switch), streaming IP integration, and the list goes on.

Price - It's the same price as PIA now, and with my discount code "tomspark" which isn't unique really, since TG has thousands of 50% off codes floating around, its $5 a month compared to $10 a month with PIA...

Reputation - TG's reputation has been flawless. They don't make any false claims and are honest about their jurisdiction, as well as a no logs policy.This is why so many VPNs try to buy them out (as claimed in the TG lawsuit document)..The fact they are sueing another VPN for blackmailing them is a good thing IMO. They are showing some balls. The fact so many VPNs are trying to DDOS TorGuard as well, shows they are doing something right.

So yes, I am an objective party. I have been reviewing VPNs since 2015, and have re-reviewed more than 20+ VPNs this year alone.

Not to mention TorGuard only has an affiliate commission rate of 30% which makes it lower than most any other VPN in the industry (proving that I am not a sellout like other reviewers).

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

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Post by preommr »

Tomspark wrote: post #96

Hey guys, Tom Spark here. I'm the video content creator that caused this whole thing. NordVPN hates my channel since I critique and criticize them a lot. They want to censor my channel to remove the bad reviews and so forth (ironic from a VPN company that is suppose to prevent censorship no?). To date, NordVPN is one of the lowest rated VPNs on my VPN tier list at http://vpntierlist.com/ . They are also in the news a…

That video raised quite a few red flags with me and don't think that was a good coverage of this controversy.

For one thing, I don't think nordvpn would care about the 5k bug bounty.

From reading https://restoreprivacy.com/torguard-nordvpn-lawsuit-blackmai... it seems like there are quite a few serious allegations that are so absolutely ridiculous that it has to be nonsense or so ridiculous they're likely to be true.

Also, suing the wrong company is a big oversight. That's really sloppy work and doesn't inspire a lot of confidence.

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

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Post by knd775 »

Tomspark wrote: post #125
knd775 wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not directly accusing you of anything, but you sort of come across as a shill or extreme fanboy of TorGuard. How can you give them 5s across the board? -Speed: During my testing with PIA and TorGuard, PIA was consistently 50% faster. -App: The TorGuard app is lacking in features and poorly designed. -Price: It's substantially more expensive than most providers. -Reputation: They've had not too great a reputation…

Speed - PIA has always been a fast competitor to TorGuard. However, TG is extremely fast for torrenting, like REALLY fast. Test it yourself, or watch my videos. App - The app's design is fine, a bit old school, but easy to use and updated within the last year. It also has a ton of security features (app + network switch), streaming IP integration, and the list goes on. Price - It's the same price as PIA now, and with…

A video of yours that I just watched that attempts to show the "REALLY fast" torrenting speeds shows ubuntu 18.10 downloading at 11.2 MB/s (so ~90 Mb/s) with 2200 seeds (and 98 connected). Is this what I am supposed to be seeing? Is there another video I should watch? I haven't tested with the same file, but I routinely break 150 Mb/s while torrenting through PIA.

In regards to price, no one in their right mind should pay for a VPN monthly.

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

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Post by Tomspark »

preommr wrote: post #127
Tomspark wrote: post #96

Hey guys, Tom Spark here. I'm the video content creator that caused this whole thing. NordVPN hates my channel since I critique and criticize them a lot. They want to censor my channel to remove the bad reviews and so forth (ironic from a VPN company that is suppose to prevent censorship no?). To date, NordVPN is one of the lowest rated VPNs on my VPN tier list at http://vpntierlist.com/ . They are also in the news a…

That video raised quite a few red flags with me and don't think that was a good coverage of this controversy. For one thing, I don't think nordvpn would care about the 5k bug bounty. From reading https://restoreprivacy.com/torguard-nordvpn-lawsuit-blackmai... it seems like there are quite a few serious allegations that are so absolutely ridiculous that it has to be nonsense or so ridiculous they're likely to be true.…

They confused two companies in Toronto that are both caused C7. It's an easy mistake to make, and one that was corrected in just a few days.

You just posted a link to a blog that rates NordVPN as it's #2 rated VPN, and hasn't even reviewed TorGuard yet, so that source is not credible at all.

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

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Post by Tomspark »

knd775 wrote: post #128
Tomspark wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Speed - PIA has always been a fast competitor to TorGuard. However, TG is extremely fast for torrenting, like REALLY fast. Test it yourself, or watch my videos. App - The app's design is fine, a bit old school, but easy to use and updated within the last year. It also has a ton of security features (app + network switch), streaming IP integration, and the list goes on. Price - It's the same price as PIA now, and with…

A video of yours that I just watched that attempts to show the "REALLY fast" torrenting speeds shows ubuntu 18.10 downloading at 11.2 MB/s (so ~90 Mb/s) with 2200 seeds (and 98 connected). Is this what I am supposed to be seeing? Is there another video I should watch? I haven't tested with the same file, but I routinely break 150 Mb/s while torrenting through PIA. In regards to price, no one in their right mind shoul…

Good job neglecting everything else I mentioned. TorGuard is still 30$ a year which is vastly cheaper than PIA which doesnt offer discount codes. And no I'm referencing the current 2019 speeds comparing both reviews.
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