And now I have to feel guilty about this too. What a life :/
You don't have to. People always worry about destroying nature, they don't worry so much about nature destroying them . Let's say you were stranded in the arctic and met one of those poor polar bears. He'd rip you to pieces just for the heck of it. He's a goddamn killer with no remorse. He's not going to feel guilty. So fuck that polar bear and the ice sheet he lives on. We don't owe him a damn thing. We're going to…
If Seeing the World Helps Ruin It, Should We Stay Home?
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Really - you can't think of any solutions for heating and cooling houses without burning fossil fuels? Electric baseboard heaters have been a thing forever, just power those with solar or wind or nuclear and we're done. My air conditioner is already electric. Drive an electric car, and buy renewable electricity.
The problem I see though is that "drive an electric car" is interpreted all too often as "buy an electric car, and now that you're 'green', do not worry yourself about the fact that you change cars every two years and the footprint of your gas consumption is dwarfed by the footprint of actually making the cars pat self in back ".
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#54No. Here is what we actually should do: http://www.kimnicholas.com/uploads/2/5/7/6/25766487/fig1full... Upd: apart from the carbon tax, of course.
Individualistic solutions to climate change are unfair, dilute, and primitivist.
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#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
Really - you can't think of any solutions for heating and cooling houses without burning fossil fuels? Electric baseboard heaters have been a thing forever, just power those with solar or wind or nuclear and we're done. My air conditioner is already electric. Drive an electric car, and buy renewable electricity.
The problem I see though is that "drive an electric car" is interpreted all too often as "buy an electric car, and now that you're 'green', do not worry yourself about the fact that you change cars every two years and the footprint of your gas consumption is dwarfed by the footprint of actually making the cars pat self in back ".
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#56"Each additional metric ton of carbon dioxide or its equivalent — your share of the emissions on a cross-country flight one-way from New York to Los Angeles — shrinks the summer sea ice cover by 3 square meters, or 32 square feet, the authors, Dirk Notz and Julienne Stroeve, found." Those picture-like analogies may be very effective, but I immediately call bullshit. I want to know a percentage. Let's say 100% of air…
Will it solve our Problem? No. Will it help solve our Problem? Yes, because it is one of the things we can get easily ride of.
Nobody says you can't travel anymore, just take the train.
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#57Heating your home "ruins" the world. You probably wont die at 40*F inside your home, but it sure would suck living that type winter. So does cooling it during the summer, so do many other modern amenities, etc... At some point it begs the question: Is the world you are preserving worth living? Sure, there are billions of people that don't have any of these amenities in life, but it is mostly by necessity and they can…
> Is the world you are preserving worth living? Future generations would like to exist. Perhaps in people year 5000 will put 2019 in the same bucket with the dark ages.
Pollution and climate change are not an existential crisis for humanity. We're just not that powerful (yet). Humans have survived, and thrived, in far worse conditions than we are experiencing today, or that climate change is likely to cause, and it was done without the benefits of modern technology. (Really, conditions are better now because of modern technology.)
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Wait, walking outside is a sin now
It is when 10,000 people want to walk in the same place
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#59Rather than endlessly agonize about individual industries, pursuits, and interests, let’s just tax carbon emissions until they’re reduced to an acceptable level, and let the market sort the rest out. If travel is valuable to you, pay for it.
I think something missing from this, is that people wouldn't just stop doing things. People will still want to travel, and have air conditioning, so large incentives will exist to develop technologies that make this possible without the emissions. The greener alternatives will be relatively less expensive when the externalities of fossil fuels are priced in.
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It is when 10,000 people want to walk in the same place
No - stay on trails in high traffic areas and know the basic Leave No Trace principles: https://lnt.org/why/7-principles/