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Re: Brush your teeth – postpone Alzheimer's

#41

This is going to sound like a shill but I have to recommend the new Gum Detoxify toothpaste from Crest and thought I'd share it with other Hacker News readers. It has stannous fluoride and that is supposed to work better and actually kill bacteria around your gums. The reviews for it seemed crazy positive so I thought I would try it and it has been a product that actually does what it says. I have to say, I wake up w…

Stannous fluoride isn't new, it was the original fluoride compound in toothpaste until sodium fluoride got more popular.

Re: Brush your teeth – postpone Alzheimer's

#42
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I wish there was some way to compare / visualize where I should be putting my effort on this stuff. Surely I should do better taking care of my gums (flossing...:|), but I also need to improve my diet and exercise, among other things. I'd hate to find out that the things in my life that I do manage to fix turn out to be more difficult and less effectual than other options...

Twice a day of brush, floss, and rinse is the bare minimum to keep healthy teeth and gums I bought a nice electric toothbrush and water flosser, so I feel like I get a better job done faster (Sonicare and Waterpik)

There was a thread on reddit asking dentists questions and what stood out to me was unanimous agreement in multiple separate convos of dentist redditors that electric toothbrushes work better than manual. The theme every time was: Use electric. Use very light pressure (don't even open your mouth too wide because your cheeks add pressure). Spend a good amount of time on each tooth --to the point they recommend brushes with built-in timers to keep you on the clock.

As for flossing: All I know is that before I started flossing, I was accumulating measurable gum damage. After I started, it healed. Now when I slack off, I get sore spots. When I start again, they heal. And, when I'm flossing I find it incredible how much gunk I pull out of my gums even right after a through brushing. It's gross. But, far more gross would be just leaving it there to rot.

Re: Brush your teeth – postpone Alzheimer's

#43
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You don’t. You spit it out and go about your day.

Is this common advice? I would find having my mouth coated with toothpaste residue to be extremely off putting. You would also end up swallowing quite a bit, yes?

Leaving toothpaste residue (containing fluoride) on your teeth is the main thing toothpaste is for.

Fluoride changes the chemical properties of tooth enamel to make it stronger. So removing toothpaste immediately after applying it reduces the effectiveness.

If not rinsing is intolerable then rinsing with a fluorinated mouthwash, which provides less fluoride that toothpaste but is still better than nothing, would be a better choice.

Re: Brush your teeth – postpone Alzheimer's

#44
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I find it hard to believe this sudden flurry of doubt about flossing, just based on my own experience. I have quite packed together teeth and find flossing very fiddly, so am very inconsistent with it. When I don't floss, after 3 or 4 months, my gums start to puff up and bleed when brushed. When I do floss at least once a week, they don't. It was especially obvious when I smoked, a few months after visiting the denti…

"There's no good evidence that flossing is effective for preventing dental carries and periodontal disease vs brushing alone" is not the same as "flossing is not effective for preventing dental carries and periodontal disease vs brushing alone." Just because evidence for something doesn't exist or is weak doesn't mean it doesn't work, it just means we haven't done the high quality randomized studies to prove it works…

There are whole countries where flossing is not a thing. Fluoridated water protects your teeth. The rest may be just culture.

Re: Brush your teeth – postpone Alzheimer's

#45

This is going to sound like a shill but I have to recommend the new Gum Detoxify toothpaste from Crest and thought I'd share it with other Hacker News readers. It has stannous fluoride and that is supposed to work better and actually kill bacteria around your gums. The reviews for it seemed crazy positive so I thought I would try it and it has been a product that actually does what it says. I have to say, I wake up w…

There's also nano-hydroxyapatite (n-Ha), a bioactive form of calcium apatite that has been found to stick to dentine and help remineralize your teeth [1] [2].

It's popular in Japan, where it's even added to things like sports drinks. It's not easy to get in the West yet. The only toothpaste I know with n-Ha is Boka [3], and there's a more expensive Japanese one on Amazon called Apagard Premio [4].

[1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4252862/

[2] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030057121...

[3] https://www.boka.com/products/ela-mint-toothpaste

[4] https://www.amazon.com/Apagard-Premio-toothpaste-nanohydroxy...

Re: Brush your teeth – postpone Alzheimer's

#46
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> you should never rinse with water This is going to be a stupid question. What do you rinse with?

You don’t. You spit it out and go about your day.

It's fine to swish and spit with a small amount (~5mL) of water, making a "slurry" with the toothpaste. It may even be beneficial because the swishing would coat all of your mouth's surfaces.

https://www.berkeleywellness.com/self-care/preventive-care/a...

Re: Brush your teeth – postpone Alzheimer's

#47
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>Please brush and floss. There's no downside. I wouldn't go as far as to say there's NO downside. Of course this makes me sound like a kook, but in the interest of full transparency: If you are using fluoridated toothpaste there are side effects of the fluoride, not to mention the other synthetic chemicals in there like sulfates that mess with your gut - and Oral-B Glide floss is made with teflon-like substances (PFA…

You shouldn't be swallowing your toothpaste or your floss.

If you swallow your floss, you would get to live the life as a dog owner with worms except you are the dog and the owner.

Re: Brush your teeth – postpone Alzheimer's

#48
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But then again brushing with fluoridated toothpaste is one of the few dental interventions with good evidence supporting it's effectiveness (unlike flossing for instance).

I find it hard to believe this sudden flurry of doubt about flossing, just based on my own experience. I have quite packed together teeth and find flossing very fiddly, so am very inconsistent with it. When I don't floss, after 3 or 4 months, my gums start to puff up and bleed when brushed. When I do floss at least once a week, they don't. It was especially obvious when I smoked, a few months after visiting the denti…

> When I don't floss, after 3 or 4 months, my gums start to puff up and bleed when brushed. When I do floss at least once a week, they don't.

That's effectively the very beginning of "gum disease"; your brushing of your teeth probably keeps it in check otherwise, but if you didn't brush or floss - imagine where that could lead to.

Smoking only makes the problems worse (IIRC, it makes the gums more sensitive to abrasion and tooth decay products).

It's ultimately best to brush and floss regularly, particularly before going to bed, or directly after eating. I'd say if you had to do one or the other, before bed and in the morning regularly would be best.

Something to keep in mind also is how you floss - you want the floss to go between your teeth, but don't let it "saw" into (and injure) your gums - think of it more like a toothpick.

On top of all this, go see your dentist regularly if you can afford it. Every 6 months is fine. You can get x-rays and other diagnostics (there's one for oral cancer, among other things - talk to your dentist) that can help with your overall health. I honestly believe (anecdote) that going to your dentist regularly can be more beneficial for your overall health than going to the doctor.

Though, on that last bit, I honestly don't understand why here in America they leave it up to the patient to schedule regular doctor visits. I even asked my doctor's office staff if they could re-schedule me 6 months or a year later, and they wouldn't do it ahead of time, just "call us in a year" - which of course I never did. I suck at such follow-ups, but I've gone regularly to the dentist every 6 months for the past 25+ years - because they always schedule the next 6-month follow-up for me before I leave the office.

I don't understand why it's not done as a matter of course by regular family practice doctors (though they seem to do this - I think - for children; but at some point you "age out" - or more often, leave home out from under your parent's care).

Re: Brush your teeth – postpone Alzheimer's

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There's always a downside: the time lost. Over a year we loose 10+ hours on that.

You would spend much more than 10 hours on dentists appointments if you don't do this. Brushing and flossing properly cannot be stated as a loss of anything - time, money, health, whatever, no matter how you try to frame it. Don't delude yourself and others.

Additionally, you may not notice it but it you don’t floss you are likely to have bad breath due to the food trapped between your teeth (it depends on the gaps between your teeth but any food that sits in your mouth will eventually smell like shit). Outside of the other benefits of flossing, knowing that my breath smells better and not worrying about it is worth the 5-10 minute effort once a day.

Re: Brush your teeth – postpone Alzheimer's

#50

This is going to sound like a shill but I have to recommend the new Gum Detoxify toothpaste from Crest and thought I'd share it with other Hacker News readers. It has stannous fluoride and that is supposed to work better and actually kill bacteria around your gums. The reviews for it seemed crazy positive so I thought I would try it and it has been a product that actually does what it says. I have to say, I wake up w…

There's also nano-hydroxyapatite (n-Ha), a bioactive form of calcium apatite that has been found to stick to dentine and help remineralize your teeth [1] [2]. It's popular in Japan, where it's even added to things like sports drinks. It's not easy to get in the West yet. The only toothpaste I know with n-Ha is Boka [3], and there's a more expensive Japanese one on Amazon called Apagard Premio [4]. [1] https://www.ncb…

> It's not easy to get in the West yet.

IIRC - it used to be "easy" - then it was pulled from the market:

https://arstechnica.com/civis/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1372067

Conspiracy theories abound of course...

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