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Re: Amazon defeated Rekognition shareholder revolt by a large margin

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> It is easily verifiable if your changes to an algorithm have removed the bias you are worried about. Please never enter politics.

What, would your worldview survive if we came to find that bias didn't drive the outcomes disparities that vex you?

Quite the opposite - I know how easily those administrating a system can bias it.

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You are aware that AI programs reflect the prejudices of the organizations that develop them? https://science.sciencemag.org/content/356/6334/183.full

Yes, and it is well known that Tesla's self-driving program reproduces Elon Musk's reckless driving habits... /s I'm just intervening to point out that what you're saying is not what the paper you linked implies. Its title is "Semantics derived automatically from language corpora contain human-like biases", and the general conclusion you could derive from it is that AI programs reflect the stereotypes ... of the data…

And who selects the training set?

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Law enforcement is general is not good at self-accountability. That accountability has to be rigorously enforced from the outside. With algorithms, I think it can be done... but given how subtle the negative effects can be, the process must be stringent and err on the side of caution. In other words, any algorithm should be assumed to be biased until proven otherwise, and with a relatively high bar at that. There sho…

> That accountability has to be rigorously enforced from the outside. I agree. But the reason that we don't have that right now isn't related to whether or not computers are involved, and introducing algorithms won't solve that situation. The reason that police accountability is weak is political.

Sure. But until we resolve the accountability, we shouldn't increase the power of law enforcement. The more unaccountable power they have, the more it will be abused, and the graver the abuses.

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Yes, and it is well known that Tesla's self-driving program reproduces Elon Musk's reckless driving habits... /s I'm just intervening to point out that what you're saying is not what the paper you linked implies. Its title is "Semantics derived automatically from language corpora contain human-like biases", and the general conclusion you could derive from it is that AI programs reflect the stereotypes ... of the data…

And who selects the training set?

Do you not mind that your point isn't reflected in the paper you linked?
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