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NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

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Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

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Post by SturmUndDrang »

kadoban wrote: post #13

NordVPN is by far the shittiest VPN service I have ever used. They billed me twice, two months in a row, and getting them to fix it was like pulling teeth. This is not to mention the hard time I had actually using the service, between random inability to connect and outages. They have ISP-level arrogance, without the lock-in. I have no idea how they're still in business. So I'd be very inclined towards believing this…

> NordVPN is by far the shittiest VPN service I have ever used.

NordVPN's poor trust pilot score agrees with you:

https://trustpilot.com/review/nordvpn.com

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

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Post by skippybobby »

You can clearly see that TG include stuff about Nord that aint related to the lawsuit, nor to the court itself, and thats clearly why - to make Nord look bad guys in this scenario, while all the claims sounds like bs. Torguard hasn’t even filled in the correct company name when they filed the suit first, which speaks for itself on how professional they are. Anyhow, how is that Nord the bad guy now and everyone forgets the fact that they just wanted to let torguard know about their own vulnerability to fix?

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

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Post by safeplanet-fesa »

NordVPN is one of the ugliest in the on its own shady VPN business. They did their best to slowly make the Tesonet scandal slide away. Here on HN some users provided extensive insights about their connections with the Lithuanian data mining company and convincingly demonstrated that NordVPN must be the most evil VPN honeypot and deceiver.

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

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Post by kabacha »

hartator wrote: post #57

From NordVPN response: > It all started when we received information that led us to finding a TorGuard server configuration file lying in the open on the internet. It's highly doubtful that's some random person will send some security vulnerabilities about a company to another unrelated company. It's more probable that NordVPN had its own team trying to hack or at least test Torguard defenses. That makes the DDoS all…

> It's highly doubtful that's some random person will send some security vulnerabilities about a company to another unrelated company.

When I had a small web-crawling/automation business we'd get quite few emails like that oferring all sorts of datasets and security holes for sale. We never responded (people already have a hate boner for web-crawlers lol).

Maybe someone with more gray/black hat infosec knowledge could comment on plausability on this but honestly I wouldn't underestimate black hat sales skills :)

Re: NordVPN sued by Torguard for blackmail [pdf]

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Post by fao_ »

rasengan wrote: post #31
cyberpunk wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reading the parent pdf vs Nord's response [0] I'm slightly more inclined to believe Nords version of events here... 0: https://nordvpn.com/blog/torguard-lawsuit/

NordVPN is good at spinning stories, but quite frankly they have been caught in too many lies to ever trust again [1]. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18609655

If you take two seconds to read the responses to that link, the claims made in the post are almost entirely baseless.
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