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Re: Apple Pro Display XDR

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The real lede here is 1000nits of brightness; even the old LG Ultrafine displays capped out at 500nits.

https://www.dell.com/en-ca/shop/dell-ultrasharp-27-4k-hdr-mo... I mean there's that.

No it is not. Peak 1,000 nits. Not sustainable brightness. The two are totally different class.

Re: Apple Pro Display XDR

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I don’t think that the resolution was an attempt to justify the price. If that was the case, why go down in resolution from what’s available? Maybe if they were selling a 9k I would buy it. Based off some back of the envelope math I did a while ago, I think Apple decided that 6k is the maximum usable resolution for a desktop monitor. At reasonable viewing distances you should be able to tell the difference between a…

Unless you just make it bigger. They talked about being able to have 6 of the things and were showing dual monitors much of the time. Ultrawides have been demonstrating that there is demand for larger monitors. Most people who want a two or three monitor setup would probably be even happier with a single, larger monitor.

The bigger the monitor (or the more of them you want), the further you have to sit away from them. The further you sit away from them the less you can resolve all the details, making the extra resolution pointless.

If I were going to have multiple monitors, I would skip the Apple monitor and get a bunch of 4K panels.

Re: Apple Pro Display XDR

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Eizos are outstanding. You can find pretty good deals on used ones with good color space coverage.

True. FlexScan are sometimes not too expensive. With a discount, a 2k one can match Dell UltraSharp in pricing. They also have those amazing 1:1 1920x1920 that are widely used in air traffic control.

Exactly!! I run exclusively 2k and it's not the end of the world imo.

I'm running a 1:1 right now and holy cow. I know it's probably bias but I will say it's actually the best monitor I've ever used... I'm a developer so the balance between LOC on screen at full width is AMAZING. Color isn't fantastic on it but honestly I have two monitors flanking it on the left/right that are calibrated enough for basic print/photo needs.

The thing is - I'm still using it for things like PS and Illustrator because 1:1 works so well for complex applications like that... I just check color on a better monitor.

Re: Apple Pro Display XDR

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I know nothing about "reference grade" monitors. Can anyone comment on the veracity of the only competing product for this new monitor costing $30,000?

IIRC Sony's is an OLED display. Different display technology. Very expensive. Entirely different. You can't do what an OLED can do with an LCD.

But that's the point. They did do with LCD what, before, was only possible on OLED. That's the claim, anyway.

Re: Apple Pro Display XDR

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True. FlexScan are sometimes not too expensive. With a discount, a 2k one can match Dell UltraSharp in pricing. They also have those amazing 1:1 1920x1920 that are widely used in air traffic control.

Exactly!! I run exclusively 2k and it's not the end of the world imo. I'm running a 1:1 right now and holy cow. I know it's probably bias but I will say it's actually the best monitor I've ever used... I'm a developer so the balance between LOC on screen at full width is AMAZING. Color isn't fantastic on it but honestly I have two monitors flanking it on the left/right that are calibrated enough for basic print/photo…

Glad to hear you like it!

Perhaps for programming, if one can only afford a single monitor, 2K 16:10 (2560x1600) would be better than the 1:1 1920x1920 Eizo offers.

That gives you the ability to split screen into two windows that have an aspect ratio very close to A4, sqrt(2).

With Eizo, the split is a bit too narrow or too short.

However, for a single application the 1:1 is amazing. And sadly all 2K 16:10 are old models on their way out...

Re: Apple Pro Display XDR

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Maybe a bit off-topic, but each of these announcements seems to be posted here on HN as a TechCrunch link. Can we not do that? Their site is very hard to browse these days, and there are plenty of better options.

I'd appreciate the suggestion of one of these options

Re: Apple Pro Display XDR

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I wish they'd just bring back a "Macintosh," non-pro, non-book... Standard itx/matx/atx size with a nice looking case and upper-middle parts in it for something resembling an upper-middle price ($1500-3000 for desktop).

It's never gonna happen. It simply is not Apple.

Re: Apple Pro Display XDR

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"Pro" Fairly predictable. Commodified tablets for consumers, laptops for developers (still working on that...), hugely expensive thoroughbred (status symbol) hardware for professional content creators with professional budgets. Problem is, there's much more money in the prosumer niche than there is at the high end. For every successful LA movie score composer there are thousands, even tens of thousands, of bedroom DA…

Pros can justify the price if the performance is top-of-the-line and downtime is zero (or support & fix is near-instant). If Apple's quality control game leaks over into this new Pro line, then there will be lots of unhappy professionals staring at their $11k paperweights while shopping for something else.

They can justify the performance to a point. If it costs twice as much as a competing system offering similar performance, reliability, and service, it becomes much more difficult to justify.

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I've never worked in a company that would blow $1k on a stand. Assuming it is VESA mount they'll just buy a cheaper alternative. If it isn't I'm sure some Chinese companies will oblige soon enough.

The stand connector is custom but Apple sells a VESA adapter for “only” $200.

The contrast effect at play. Make the stand $999 to make $200 seem like a reasonable price for the VESA adaptor, when in fact it should be built in to the display like it is on basically ever other pro-level display.
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