I like this idea, but they need more content. Right now, this site is a paid service where you can get a handful of good YouTube channels. Thing is, this only has maybe 1/3 of the good YouTube channels I actually subscribe to. If I just use YouTube instead, I can watch all of these channels, plus Scott Manley, The History Guy, Military History Visualized, a handful of gun channels, Essential Craftsman, a bunch of genuinely worthwhile sports channels....
Nebula: A paid alternative to YouTube, curated by the creators
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Re: Nebula: A paid alternative to YouTube, curated by the creators
#102How could they possibly challenge a Monopoly like YouTube?
My 2 cents, as a user and not a creator.
I'm deeply annoyed with YouTube and their policy of extracting any minute of possible attention from my eyes. I watch less and less YouTube and I would happily pay for quality contents.
Re: Nebula: A paid alternative to YouTube, curated by the creators
#103I (naively) expected the platform to be paid for by the creators in a way where they all shared the operating costs while finding some “fair” way to allocate advertising income. Instead they’ve taken Jay-Z’s Tidal strategy: create a premium platform for the content creators and expect the content consumers to pay a premium price for it.
Tidal is a perfect analogy. It's a bunch of artists sitting around saying "hey, what if we just stopped caring about what our customers want?"
For better or worse, it worked for Steam.
Re: Nebula: A paid alternative to YouTube, curated by the creators
#104Dave Wiskus, one of the co-creators of the standard.tv network behind this platform, gave some insights on the /r/CGPGrey2 subreddit [0] and on Twitter [1].
[0] https://www.reddit.com/r/CGPGrey2/comments/bs52a1/nebula_an_... [1] https://twitter.com/dwiskus/status/1131587829136601088
Re: Nebula: A paid alternative to YouTube, curated by the creators
#105Here's the impression I'm getting looking at that page: It's like YouTube Originals. Curated, safe, sanitized. As an adult, this is like the last thing I'd want in a YouTube-like site, for my viewing. I don't feel like I'm likely to find something unusual or unexpected. On the other hand, if I was a parent looking to distract my very young kids, curated, safe, sanitized, and ad-free is exactly what I'd want. EDIT: Is…
I'd just like a venue where being mildly interested in games doesn't have an algorithm go "If you liked that, you'll love this fascist rant!"
"Self-help" videos targeted at men often lead to that too I've found. I might be watching a video about how to come across as more confident to people, or tricks to becoming more disciplined, and with just four or five clicks via Peterson/Milo/Shapiro videos you'll get to the "Lib CUCK get's destroyed by FACTS and LOGIC" side of YouTube.
Re: Nebula: A paid alternative to YouTube, curated by the creators
#106I was checking their ToS to see if they'd allow creators demonetized by youtube and found this clause: > Refusal to vaccinate your children may result in the termination of your service and, probably, your children. While I agree refusal to vaccinate your children is dumb, they're starting off on the wrong foot by already setting a very awkward line in the sand. What about hawking fake cures for cancer like vinegar?…
> full moderation/walled garden
They are full moderation. It's a curated bunch of creators. I think the submission's title has confused 99% of the folks commenting on this post. It is not an alternative to YouTube. It's an alternative place to YouTube to view these content creators' videos
Re: Nebula: A paid alternative to YouTube, curated by the creators
#107Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'd just like a venue where being mildly interested in games doesn't have an algorithm go "If you liked that, you'll love this fascist rant!"
"Self-help" videos targeted at men often lead to that too I've found. I might be watching a video about how to come across as more confident to people, or tricks to becoming more disciplined, and with just four or five clicks via Peterson/Milo/Shapiro videos you'll get to the "Lib CUCK get's destroyed by FACTS and LOGIC" side of YouTube.
This is honestly a really dark pattern that I feel has trapped a lot of unsure/insecure adolescent men. I had a college roommate who had a lot of trouble talking to people, and constantly watched a lot of self help videos (which is honestly a pretty good indicator of self-improvement). However, he was exposed to a lot of rabid political rhetoric at the same time.
All it took to steer him away was getting him outside and with some nice people, but those who are more withdrawn I think are increasingly being exposed to this kind of content at their most impressionable time. It almost feels manufactured.
Re: Nebula: A paid alternative to YouTube, curated by the creators
#108I (naively) expected the platform to be paid for by the creators in a way where they all shared the operating costs while finding some “fair” way to allocate advertising income. Instead they’ve taken Jay-Z’s Tidal strategy: create a premium platform for the content creators and expect the content consumers to pay a premium price for it.
Tidal is a perfect analogy. It's a bunch of artists sitting around saying "hey, what if we just stopped caring about what our customers want?"
Rather, it's a bunch of artists sitting around saying, "Hey, what if we got paid fairly?".
Re: Nebula: A paid alternative to YouTube, curated by the creators
#109Here's the impression I'm getting looking at that page: It's like YouTube Originals. Curated, safe, sanitized. As an adult, this is like the last thing I'd want in a YouTube-like site, for my viewing. I don't feel like I'm likely to find something unusual or unexpected. On the other hand, if I was a parent looking to distract my very young kids, curated, safe, sanitized, and ad-free is exactly what I'd want. EDIT: Is…
As an adult, this is exactly what I want.
So tired of the unrelated drivel youtube recommends. I will gladly watch a few favorite channels all day but youtube wants me to either watch "similar" channels of 5% the quality or "top 10 hot girl fails" which, btw, I have _never_ clicked on why does it still recommend this to me?
Every few months I find another channel that is absolutely incredible and in line with what I already watch and I wonder "why was that not recommended before? why lower quality or unrelated videos?"
Re: Nebula: A paid alternative to YouTube, curated by the creators
#110I'll play devils advocate here, and say that I could potentially see this idea working. The difference between this and the plethora of different video services, is that the product here may not be the actual video service, but can be seen as a way to support the various video creators. Most of the creators on Nebula are already drawing in pretty large followings on Patreon, so it's clear that they are able to retain…
> I'll play devils advocate here, and say that I could potentially see this idea working.
This gave me a chuckle as it describes Hacker News to a T
I do agree though that I recognize some channels here that I really like and figure if there's even one or two more like those, i'd be quite happy.