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With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by Beltiras »

nudpiedo wrote: post #15
Beltiras wrote: post #5

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Well, we've had some wonderful crackpots through the ages. Tesla comes to mind. Whatever you think about his idea of escape velocity you can't doubt the engineering approach he advocates makes sense. Solve these 7 problems [1] and there will be no reason the organism should die. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey_de_Grey#The_seven_types...

I can doubt of the engineering approach he advocates, because I am aware that people like me is completely an outsider in this branch of science and I cannot differentiate a charlatan from an actual scientist. You could fool a person ignorant enough in a speciality with statements such as: - To fly we just need a way to defeat gravity. - To resurrect a body we just need to insufflate the soul back to the body. - To m…

Your list lacks detail where AdG includes very specific things to solve.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by sundvor »

bad_user wrote: post #23
hannob wrote: post #9

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Or get a gym membership, actually use it and eat less crap. This may only give you a few years, but chances that it'll actually work are much higher.

You don’t need a gym membership. For cardio you can go to any park for running or biking. It’s way more fun. For strength training you can do bodyweight strength training at home with no equipment required (calisthenics). Most people fall into the trap of paying for a gym membership, but then they never use it, because let’s face it, going to the gym wastes time and is uncomfortable. If you train at home by using the…

If I could find room for a squat rack+ bench at home I'd agree with you. :) Nothing beats proper squatting, deadlifting, bench and shoulder presses.

I cycle a lot but the benefits for this desk jockey are marginal compared to doing stronglifts twice or thrice a week.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by naasking »

WilliamEdward wrote: post #8
Beltiras wrote: post #5

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Well, we've had some wonderful crackpots through the ages. Tesla comes to mind. Whatever you think about his idea of escape velocity you can't doubt the engineering approach he advocates makes sense. Solve these 7 problems [1] and there will be no reason the organism should die. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey_de_Grey#The_seven_types...

okay thats great but how do i solve these problems? I don't have encyclopaedic knowledge on all things that can cause mutations and cell damage.

> okay thats great but how do i solve these problems?

de Grey's list is about guiding research directions, it's not for ordinary people to use.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by kristofferR »

nudpiedo wrote: post #15
Beltiras wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, we've had some wonderful crackpots through the ages. Tesla comes to mind. Whatever you think about his idea of escape velocity you can't doubt the engineering approach he advocates makes sense. Solve these 7 problems [1] and there will be no reason the organism should die. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey_de_Grey#The_seven_types...

I can doubt of the engineering approach he advocates, because I am aware that people like me is completely an outsider in this branch of science and I cannot differentiate a charlatan from an actual scientist. You could fool a person ignorant enough in a speciality with statements such as: - To fly we just need a way to defeat gravity. - To resurrect a body we just need to insufflate the soul back to the body. - To m…

Charlatans sell stuff. De Grey funds stuff: https://www.sens.org/srf-publications/

Pretty massive difference.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by johnydepp »

kristofferR wrote: post #59

So many people think anti-aging science is just about living more years, but that's missing half the picture. Anti-aging science is not just about living more years, it's about being able to live healthy and fulfilling lives both physically and mentally even as you age. Way too many people are broken by age before they die, to prevent that would be fantastic.

So the title shouldn't be 'Can we Live Longer..". As the actual article is about anti-aging not living longer..

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by agent008t »

SeanDav wrote: post #48
agent008t wrote: post #21

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At the same time, many young men in the West struggle to put on weight and are underweight.

Can't decide if this is sarcastic/tongue-in-cheek or serious. If serious - would love to see source(s) for that statistic....

Serious. Don't have the statistics, but look up "gomad" for "gallon of full fat milk a day" - it is a thing for a reason.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by johnydepp »

The most intriguing thing I found in the article, is that, If you design & sell items specifically to elderly, they wont buy it. Because they don't want the product to remind that they are old.

So the solution is to design a product which suits to the elderly but seems like its designed for young generation.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by qwsxyh »

francisofascii wrote: post #43
qwsxyh wrote: post #30

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I swear most HN users have some form of orthorexia.

Diet and the human body in general is a complex system the HN users want to understand, hack, optimize, perfect.

The last person I would trust to "hack" or "optimise" the human body is an orange website user.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by nradov »

RickJWagner wrote: post #16
hannob wrote: post #9

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Or get a gym membership, actually use it and eat less crap. This may only give you a few years, but chances that it'll actually work are much higher.

That's my plan. I've got the gym membership and use it often. I struggle mightily with eating less crap, though. (Especially chocolate.) Food is one of the great pleasures in life, and I haven't found really healthy food to be a good replacement for tasty junk. Maybe advances in food production will bring hope?

Try eating dark chocolate with minimal added sugar. It contains fewer calories and if you buy the good stuff it's quite tasty.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by nradov »

Beltiras wrote: post #5
ggambetta wrote: post #3

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I'm extremely interested in the topic (as I get older but happen to like living). However some people seem to think De Grey is a bit of a crackpot?

Well, we've had some wonderful crackpots through the ages. Tesla comes to mind. Whatever you think about his idea of escape velocity you can't doubt the engineering approach he advocates makes sense. Solve these 7 problems [1] and there will be no reason the organism should die. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey_de_Grey#The_seven_types...

Solve those 7 problems and we'll probably find an 8th.
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