With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by headalgorithm » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 10:38 AM UTC

With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent
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Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by BuildTheRobots » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 11:08 AM UTC

Anyone interested in the idea of living longer (without the detrimental effects of aging) should check out any Aubrey De Grey talk/video/interview.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by ggambetta » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 11:24 AM UTC

BuildTheRobots wrote: post #2

Anyone interested in the idea of living longer (without the detrimental effects of aging) should check out any Aubrey De Grey talk/video/interview.

I'm extremely interested in the topic (as I get older but happen to like living). However some people seem to think De Grey is a bit of a crackpot?

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by kkarakk » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 11:29 AM UTC

ggambetta wrote: post #3

BuildTheRobots wrote: post #2

Anyone interested in the idea of living longer (without the detrimental effects of aging) should check out any Aubrey De Grey talk/video/interview.

I'm extremely interested in the topic (as I get older but happen to like living). However some people seem to think De Grey is a bit of a crackpot?

The beard says it all

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by Beltiras » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 11:30 AM UTC

ggambetta wrote: post #3

BuildTheRobots wrote: post #2

Anyone interested in the idea of living longer (without the detrimental effects of aging) should check out any Aubrey De Grey talk/video/interview.

I'm extremely interested in the topic (as I get older but happen to like living). However some people seem to think De Grey is a bit of a crackpot?

Well, we've had some wonderful crackpots through the ages. Tesla comes to mind.

Whatever you think about his idea of escape velocity you can't doubt the engineering approach he advocates makes sense. Solve these 7 problems [1] and there will be no reason the organism should die.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey_de_Grey#The_seven_types...

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by amelius » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 11:32 AM UTC

ggambetta wrote: post #3

BuildTheRobots wrote: post #2

Anyone interested in the idea of living longer (without the detrimental effects of aging) should check out any Aubrey De Grey talk/video/interview.

I'm extremely interested in the topic (as I get older but happen to like living). However some people seem to think De Grey is a bit of a crackpot?

Could be but he also published a well-received paper on graph coloring, so at least he's not stupid.

https://arxiv.org/abs/1804.02385

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by novaRom » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 11:34 AM UTC

Yes we can. Calorie restriction is well known slowing biological aging process.

Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie_restriction

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by WilliamEdward » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 11:37 AM UTC

Beltiras wrote: post #5

ggambetta wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm extremely interested in the topic (as I get older but happen to like living). However some people seem to think De Grey is a bit of a crackpot?

Well, we've had some wonderful crackpots through the ages. Tesla comes to mind. Whatever you think about his idea of escape velocity you can't doubt the engineering approach he advocates makes sense. Solve these 7 problems [1] and there will be no reason the organism should die. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aubrey_de_Grey#The_seven_types...

okay thats great but how do i solve these problems? I don't have encyclopaedic knowledge on all things that can cause mutations and cell damage.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by hannob » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 11:38 AM UTC

BuildTheRobots wrote: post #2

Anyone interested in the idea of living longer (without the detrimental effects of aging) should check out any Aubrey De Grey talk/video/interview.

Or get a gym membership, actually use it and eat less crap. This may only give you a few years, but chances that it'll actually work are much higher.

Re: With greater longevity, the quest to avoid infirmities of aging is more urgent

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Post by hannob » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 11:39 AM UTC

novaRom wrote: post #7

Yes we can. Calorie restriction is well known slowing biological aging process. Sources: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie_restriction

The existing research on CR seems to indicate that the closer you get to human-like animals the lesser it works.

It worked very well in small organisms, once you go to apes the results are much less clear: https://www.theverge.com/2017/1/17/14287708/caloric-restrict...