Use zsh as the default shell on your Mac

Post by pjmlp » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 4:53 AM UTC

AaronFriel wrote: post #46

Newtonip wrote: post #21

For those wondering why Apple is allergic to GPLv3 code: there is a clause in the license requiring you provide a way to run modified version of the software which would require Apple to let users self sign executables.

So, Homebrew? You can't tell me that Microsoft is able to ship entire distribution's userlands (Debian, Ubuntu, SUSE, and more) through the Windows Store, including all their GPL3 components, and Apple can't figure out how to ship an updated version of base64. If I'm grumbling, it's just because making devops/CI scripts work on Windows and Linux is easier than MacOS and Linux these days because my colleagues run into…

Post by romka2 » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 4:58 AM UTC

spartanatreyu wrote: post #26

SomeOldThrow wrote: post #7

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Since when is mainstream better? Why did they choose zsh? They don't justify that either. It's just odd to pick one post-bash shell but not the other when they have very similar feature sets—autocomplete, persistent global variables, attention to end-user quality. EDIT: apparently zsh doesn't have persistent or global variables, my bad.

There's already a lot of community support available for zsh. Plenty of developers are using oh-my-zsh either for just the plugin support or for the very popular iterm+powerlevel9k+agnoster theming.

Post by romka2 » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 5:01 AM UTC

okdana wrote: post #103

dontbenebby wrote: post #96

I've never worked outside bash. I have a lot of simple bash scripts. (Usually just stringing together commands with the occasional pipe or output to file) Will this break all those or are bash scripts and zsh scripts basically interchangeable?

As the other person said, if your scripts are executables with an sh or bash 'shebang' at the top, they will continue to use the same shell they always did. But if you did want to run them with zsh, most simple scripts that just set environment variables, string together commands, or redirect to files should work without any changes. The most obvious difference for basic scripts like that is that zsh doesn't split pa…

Post by protomyth » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 5:08 AM UTC

1over137 wrote: post #47

icedchai wrote: post #37

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Sorry, how is that a problem? Users can build and execute code on their own Mac with XCode.

Perhaps Apple's vision for the future is one where you can't do that (ex: App Notarization seems to have us heading in that direction.)

Post by gok » Tue, Jun 04, 2019, 5:56 AM UTC

bangonkeyboard wrote: post #14

tptacek wrote: post #4

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Why would they use fish? Fish is nice and all, but zsh is a much more mainstream shell.

fish was written by an Apple engineer.