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Meanwhile Android, which yeah only 5% of users or something crazy small are on the latest version, will get to use the latest libraries on versions released 5+ years ago.
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I just wanted to say thank you - I'm a web developer who has been learning iOS dev in his spare time and made the decision pretty early on to build my views programmatically. It seemed crazy and old school to me to have the UI stuff that IB generates stored in XML - I definitely thought it should generate the same code that you would write to do it programmatically. Also, the code for building UIs programmatically ha…
If you find iOS / macOS views cumbersome to write programmatically you should feel fortunate you didn’t have to write Android views programmatically.
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This looks very similar to Flutter, I wouldn't be surprised if they took some ideas from that which is all well and good; UI construction needs a facelift.
That is exactly what I said when I saw the code on the screen. Now if they released a development environment for Android also.... (wishful thinking)
I'd be curious to know how many React Native devs work on cross-platform apps. In casual conversation I've had it actually isn't that high, despite it being one of the central promises of RN. Given that SwiftUI has live reloading and a sensible template interface I could absolutely see it winning over some RN devs. There's something to be said (particularly with Apple) for using the native toolset rather than RN, Flu…
I’m one of the engineers that spearheaded this initiative inside of Apple. I just wanted to thank the HN community—I’ve been reading HN for 10 years now and it’s been formative in my development as a software engineer. If you’re at WWDC stop by the labs and say hi!
Where does this leave Storyboards? I can't see complex UI being built in SwiftUI
I’m one of the engineers that spearheaded this initiative inside of Apple. I just wanted to thank the HN community—I’ve been reading HN for 10 years now and it’s been formative in my development as a software engineer. If you’re at WWDC stop by the labs and say hi!
Can I use that in an existing app?
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One thing that Google does right with Android is back porting to older versions.
I'm having a hard time figuring out how this statement can be even remotely accurate.
Google also announced a declarative UI framework. It's in the early stages and is open source. Android is on 9.x but that framework will run on much older versions of Android.
Meanwhile iOS 12 might be on 85% of iOS devices but it wont ever see SwiftUI.
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Jetpack Composer you mean. I bet by next IO, Flutter will get replaced by it, specially after the #KotlinEverywhere announcement and Kotlin/Native effort for iOS.
It looks like Jetpack Compose is not really done yet. It's pre-alpha and the Jetpack Compose doc page says don't use it for production. https://developer.android.com/jetpack/compose/ I may be missing something, but SwiftUI seems to be pretty much ready to go today.
Which for most companies is 2+ years away
I’m one of the engineers that spearheaded this initiative inside of Apple. I just wanted to thank the HN community—I’ve been reading HN for 10 years now and it’s been formative in my development as a software engineer. If you’re at WWDC stop by the labs and say hi!
IDE support is jaw-dropping. I did not see that kind of integration between text and UI anywhere. Framework code looks like React from the first glance, but IDE integration is game-breaker.