Trump's Next Trade War Target: Chinese Students at Elite Schools
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#2Stupid bigot does bigoted things stupidly. Now, here's Dan with the weather.
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#3It would be nice if we could add some human rights issues to Trump’s list of grievances. I feel like coverage of what’s going on would feel entirely different if part of it was saying “stop running concentration camps”
Edit: curious why the downvotes
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#5This is probably warranted.
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#6There was no mention of the Influence Operations "Confucius Institutes", or Espionage work by the Chinese government in that article.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/josh-rogin/wp/2018/05/22...
https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2018/02/15/fbi-director-...
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#7This is probably warranted.
I disagree with you, but am curious about your argument. Wouldn’t this cut off the brain drain that’s contributed to decades of American technological supremacy and economic growth?
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#8"In April, three researchers were also let go by the University of Texas’s M.D. Anderson Cancer Center in connection with an investigation into possible foreign attempts to take advantage of its federally funded research." This is the real reason why visas are getting denied. Why would you want to enjoy the fruits of living and working in America but benefit other countries (even if you once belonged there)?
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#9Students from China (and many other countries) are required to renew their visas annually, a process which is already quite nerve-wracking for many. PhDs in particular can take anywhere from 4 to 8 years to complete, meaning 4-8 chances for your studies to be interrupted with the only option to return home while the visa renewal stalls. This article explicitly calls out the fact that renewals seem to have been getting slower, which will impact a lot of students.
The US already lost out on multiple academic generations of bright Iranian students and scientists thanks to their restrictive visa policies. If they further hamstring themselves by excluding Chinese students, the decline of American science will accelerate dramatically. Already, science budgets are continually slashed and grants are harder to find. Slowing the pace of scientific development is a short-sighted move that will likely not be felt in full for decades, but it will definitely be felt.
Science exists outside of the USA - now is as good a time as any to consider research in places like Canada, Europe, Japan, Korea, and yes, even China. Language doesn’t need to be a barrier - increasingly, many prolific institutions are conducting much of their work in English.
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#10Elite universities have been more than complicit in this as well, especially when they can charge such a premium on "international student" tuition. It is also why they so often look the other way when those students bring their cultural values on things like cheating with them. No one dares admit it for fear of being labeled racist or xenophobic.