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Re: Zero Rupee Note

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Post by travisjungroth »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #9
bifrost wrote: post #2

Wow, thats pretty cool, I had no idea. I am a bit shocked that it works though.

> I am a bit shocked that it works though It's a shaming mechanism. If an official is committed to collecting a bribe, it will be useless. But some corrupt officials might be responsive to a verbal dressing down. Handing over a zero-rupee note is less intimidating than delivering a lecture.

I think it’s also a strong statement of your position when it comes to bribes.

A shakedown for a bribe is a negotiation. If a person is told “pay this $100 fee right now or I’ll have to take you in” and says “no”, the cop may lower the price, raise the price, threaten more, or follow through on the threat to try to get the person to pay up. But if you have a piece of paper that says “I am so against bribery that I carry around pieces of paper that say so” it makes the cop lose hope of getting the bribe. At that point, why bother with the work of arresting them?

Re: Zero Rupee Note

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Post by jacobsenscott »

bifrost wrote: post #2

Wow, thats pretty cool, I had no idea. I am a bit shocked that it works though.

I would guess it only works if there is a minimal power imbalance, and the person being bribed is in a good mood. I doubt this will get your heat turned on in the winter for example.

Re: Zero Rupee Note

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Post by heavenlyblue »

travisjungroth wrote: post #21
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am a bit shocked that it works though It's a shaming mechanism. If an official is committed to collecting a bribe, it will be useless. But some corrupt officials might be responsive to a verbal dressing down. Handing over a zero-rupee note is less intimidating than delivering a lecture.

I think it’s also a strong statement of your position when it comes to bribes. A shakedown for a bribe is a negotiation. If a person is told “pay this $100 fee right now or I’ll have to take you in” and says “no”, the cop may lower the price, raise the price, threaten more, or follow through on the threat to try to get the person to pay up. But if you have a piece of paper that says “I am so against bribery that I ca…

>> A shakedown for a bribe is a negotiation.

It's only a negotiation if the official has any chance of being prosecuted for that bribe.

>> But if you have a piece of paper that says “I am so against bribery that I carry around pieces of paper that say so” it makes the cop lose hope of getting the bribe.

Or well, the cop simply arrests you and puts you in jail for a week during which you can't go to work to afford food for your children.

>> If a person is told “pay this $100 fee right now or I’ll have to take you in” and says “no”, the cop may lower the price, raise the price, threaten more, or follow through on the threat to try to get the person to pay up.

There was a thing in Russia about a decade ago for people driving cars with European plates: a cop stops you and says you're drunk. You argue with him, so he takes you to a doctor. Doctor says you're drunk.

So the bribes went as $10 for the first time and then $100 at the doctor's. If you were smart you knew you could loose the license in Russia and then simply report it stolen in Europe because nobody shared databases.

Re: Zero Rupee Note

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Post by dheera »

aaronharnly wrote: post #3

Zero-currency notes have been generated for most of the world: http://zerocurrency.org/

Poor Jackson got the honor of being featured on the US zero note. I kind of want to put Trump's face there.

Re: Zero Rupee Note

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Post by bubblethink »

travisjungroth wrote: post #21
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I am a bit shocked that it works though It's a shaming mechanism. If an official is committed to collecting a bribe, it will be useless. But some corrupt officials might be responsive to a verbal dressing down. Handing over a zero-rupee note is less intimidating than delivering a lecture.

I think it’s also a strong statement of your position when it comes to bribes. A shakedown for a bribe is a negotiation. If a person is told “pay this $100 fee right now or I’ll have to take you in” and says “no”, the cop may lower the price, raise the price, threaten more, or follow through on the threat to try to get the person to pay up. But if you have a piece of paper that says “I am so against bribery that I ca…

>why bother with the work of arresting them?

Sport, ego, anger, setting precedent, higher payout after arresting etc. Any number of reasons. It's all fun and games to give 0 rupee notes, until you are locked up. And then your bribe to get out has gone up manifold, unless you are willing to fight it out in a court (which you aren't).

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