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Why is the iMac pro not what you want?
Glossy display.
I thought it was matte? Damn.
New Mac Pro
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Re: New Mac Pro
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The LG 5K -- by itself is $1300.
4k gaming displays are $800. plus there some bonuses with gaming displays: high refresh rate, freesync.
None of those things really matter to the target audience though. Freesync doesn't have much use when you're working with static images or videos with a fixed frame rate. When you're editing video, you want your refresh rate to equal the frame rate of your video (or a multiple or it) to avoid judder and interpolated frames. A refresh rate higher than your frame rate, but not an even multiple of it, would be worse than running at the same rate as the video. Running it at an even multiple of the frame rate may provide some benefit, but it is marginal.
The pros are mainly concerned with color accuracy and gamut, neither of which gaming displays are known for.
Re: New Mac Pro
#403I get the complaining but hey Apple released a new Mac Pro is pretty cool. They could have just decided quietly leave the market completely.
I also appreciate how the display is a thing now. Not everyone remembers the verrrry long period where 1920x1200 was the best you could do even when laptop displays were shooting off into the retina world. A high dpi developer workstation with tools to match could be a beautiful thing.
Re: New Mac Pro
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Well, if the baseline for the Pro market was made up of people who could afford the last version, then one can make the argument that Apple is the one that has redefined "Pro".
It seems evident that Apple views the "pro" market as movie studios, large corporations, and media entities that need serious computing power. On HN "pro" is three guys at a co-working space using coupons to buy coffee. It's these people who will complain the loudest about the new Mac Pro.
The criticism isn't just the price. it's that the hardware does not match the price at all. A similarly specced PC would cost half the price, and would probably be able to use stuff like Nvidia cards with CUDA that has become pretty important for some of the groups you mention.
If it was a beefy workstation with specs to match the price I don't think people would complain (or at least as much).
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I've been on the internet. I know people lie. The OKCupid blog found that "There are consistently 4x the number of people making $100K a year than there should be" [1]. They also lie about their height, and what they look like. What reason should I have for trusting anonymous self-reported data in a category where people are known to exaggerate? [1]: https://theblog.okcupid.com/the-big-lies-people-tell-in-onli...
For OkCupid there's a clear motivation for exaggerating things like height, looks, and income. What motivation does one have for anonymously posting an exaggerated income? Are there really that many trolls who want to depress those making less than $500k/yr?
People like in anonymous communities all the time. One motivation would be to impress other (perceived-to-be) successful members so to be asked for stories to tell, for advice, etc.
I don’t know why people are like that, but anonymity thins out the middle group of semi-/socially-truthful people by providing an opportunity to be much more honest or much less honest than is normally possible.
$500k is achievable total compensation at a few companies for some people, though.
Re: New Mac Pro
#406I rather like Windows machines in 2019. I believe Apple fumbled the “Pro” market big time but it’s really not something worth for them to chase in my view. I really see this new iteration more as a goodwill gesture to their pro user base than an attempt to recapture the market.
Re: New Mac Pro
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>> It seems evident that Apple views the "pro" market as movie studios, large corporations, and media entities that need serious computing power. If Apple is going to price out people who had purchased Mac Pros in the past (the lowest point of entry for the new model is -double- the price of the lowest late 2013 model), I don't really have a problem with that group complaining about the price. For that particular gro…
the lowest point of entry for the new model is -double- the price of the lowest late 2013 model 2x the price for what multiple of performance? 5x? 10x? 100x?
Are you saying that this model has 100x perf from the previous one? Or 10x? Or 5x?
Re: New Mac Pro
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How does the Mac Mini not meet what you're asking for?
I want tower case, silent and performant. I want powerful GPU for few games I'm playing. I want ECC memory. I want to put one or two HDDs along with main SSD. Mac mini does not sound like something I would like to use. I don't need small size, I have enough room. I don't need portability, I work from one place.
What you are describing already exists and it's much cheaper, it just doesn't have macOS in it.
Re: New Mac Pro
#409Am I the only person more concerned about the new "Find my Mac Feature"? Call me a cynic but this feels like it has all kinds of privacy problems.
"The new Find My app combines Find My iPhone and Find My Friends into a single, easy-to-use app on Mac, iPadOS, and iOS devices. Find My can help you locate a missing Mac — even if it’s offline and sleeping — by sending out Bluetooth signals that can be detected by Apple devices in use nearby. These devices then relay the detected location of your Mac to iCloud so you can locate it in the Find My app.
It’s all anonymous and end-to-end encrypted so no one, including Apple, knows the identity of any reporting device. And because the reporting happens silently using tiny bits of data that piggyback on existing network traffic, there’s no need to worry about your battery life, your data usage, or your privacy."
Re: New Mac Pro
#410Am I the only person more concerned about the new "Find my Mac Feature"? Call me a cynic but this feels like it has all kinds of privacy problems. "The new Find My app combines Find My iPhone and Find My Friends into a single, easy-to-use app on Mac, iPadOS, and iOS devices. Find My can help you locate a missing Mac — even if it’s offline and sleeping — by sending out Bluetooth signals that can be detected by Apple d…
> It’s all anonymous and end-to-end encrypted so no one, including Apple, knows the identity of any reporting device.
That should answer privacy concerns. They probably have a disable feature too.