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Antitrust Troubles Snowball for Tech Giants as Lawmakers Join In

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon is on the list. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20087732

And Netflix is not, probably because Hastings once said net neutrality is no longer their primary battle. IOW, they will pay to play. Disgusting. The selections make this a transparent move.

Netflix is nowhere even remotely close to being a monopoly.

Re: Antitrust Troubles Snowball for Tech Giants as Lawmakers Join In

#112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair question. IMO this is the government trying to appease the public after they refused to maintain net neutrality, despite overwhelming public support for the policy. I've edited my comment to make that clear.

I have not heard anyone complain in person about the government killing net neutrality. The general public is not harboring resentment about it.

Yeah, I mean net neutrality lasted all of one year -- there wasn't a problem and there still isn't a problem. Perhaps one day net neutrality will be an issue but it's not one now.

The issue that local governments granted monopolies to cable companies and telcos -- that's the true problem.

Re: Antitrust Troubles Snowball for Tech Giants as Lawmakers Join In

#113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Fair question. IMO this is the government trying to appease the public after they refused to maintain net neutrality, despite overwhelming public support for the policy. I've edited my comment to make that clear.

I have not heard anyone complain in person about the government killing net neutrality. The general public is not harboring resentment about it.

You must be joking. It was front page here and r/technology for months before net neutrality was repealed.

There is no question that public support for net neutrality is broad and bipartisan. The only question that remains is which 2020 candidates will stand up to say they support net neutrality.

Re: Antitrust Troubles Snowball for Tech Giants as Lawmakers Join In

#114
post #95

Allow me to temper some of the glee exhibited in the comments and even in some of the reports but a key line here is: "The divvying of antitrust enforcement does not mean that the agencies have opened official investigations" It is worth keeping in mind that antitrust enforcement in the US doesn't care about whiny competitors but if the enduser and customer is harmed and it doesn't appear to be the case when it comes…

there is a long list of companies and markets worthy of antitrust scrutiny... The real drag on the economy are the high prices of healthcare and housing I'm curious what you see as the antitrust violations that lead to high housing prices?

I agree with the sentiment of the comment you're responding to, but I also think this is a valid question and don't understand why your comment appears to be downvoted.

Re: Antitrust Troubles Snowball for Tech Giants as Lawmakers Join In

#115

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have not heard anyone complain in person about the government killing net neutrality. The general public is not harboring resentment about it.

You must be joking. It was front page here and r/technology for months before net neutrality was repealed. There is no question that public support for net neutrality is broad and bipartisan. The only question that remains is which 2020 candidates will stand up to say they support net neutrality.

I think their point is that outside of some online communities (i.e. most people in the public sphere) there isn't interest or even awareness to net neutrality.

Re: Antitrust Troubles Snowball for Tech Giants as Lawmakers Join In

#116
post #95

Allow me to temper some of the glee exhibited in the comments and even in some of the reports but a key line here is: "The divvying of antitrust enforcement does not mean that the agencies have opened official investigations" It is worth keeping in mind that antitrust enforcement in the US doesn't care about whiny competitors but if the enduser and customer is harmed and it doesn't appear to be the case when it comes…

The difficulty is that antitrust law as originally written did care about "whiny competitors", not just harm to the consumer, but the Justice Department in the Reagan era changed their standards (without changing the law) and both Democratic and Republican administrations went along with it.

Re: Antitrust Troubles Snowball for Tech Giants as Lawmakers Join In

#117
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Amazon is on the list. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20087732

And Netflix is not, probably because Hastings once said net neutrality is no longer their primary battle. IOW, they will pay to play. Disgusting. The selections make this a transparent move.

If anything, Netflix is more a victim of the monopolies that media conglomerates have on copyrighted content licensing.

Re: Antitrust Troubles Snowball for Tech Giants as Lawmakers Join In

#118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have not heard anyone complain in person about the government killing net neutrality. The general public is not harboring resentment about it.

Yeah, I mean net neutrality lasted all of one year -- there wasn't a problem and there still isn't a problem. Perhaps one day net neutrality will be an issue but it's not one now. The issue that local governments granted monopolies to cable companies and telcos -- that's the true problem.

> there wasn't a problem

Throttling traffic to certain websites [1] is not a problem?

The reason net neutrality policy came into being is ISPs were beginning to violate it [2].

[1] https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/jun/22/major-int...

[2] https://www.freepress.net/our-response/expert-analysis/expla...

Re: Antitrust Troubles Snowball for Tech Giants as Lawmakers Join In

#119
post #95

Allow me to temper some of the glee exhibited in the comments and even in some of the reports but a key line here is: "The divvying of antitrust enforcement does not mean that the agencies have opened official investigations" It is worth keeping in mind that antitrust enforcement in the US doesn't care about whiny competitors but if the enduser and customer is harmed and it doesn't appear to be the case when it comes…

there is a long list of companies and markets worthy of antitrust scrutiny... The real drag on the economy are the high prices of healthcare and housing I'm curious what you see as the antitrust violations that lead to high housing prices?

I don't understand why you're being down voted... It's a valid question. Nothing pops into my head when I imagine a corporation that owns a majority of real estate. It's a conversation worth having.

Re: Antitrust Troubles Snowball for Tech Giants as Lawmakers Join In

#120
post #103
post #95

Allow me to temper some of the glee exhibited in the comments and even in some of the reports but a key line here is: "The divvying of antitrust enforcement does not mean that the agencies have opened official investigations" It is worth keeping in mind that antitrust enforcement in the US doesn't care about whiny competitors but if the enduser and customer is harmed and it doesn't appear to be the case when it comes…

Visa and Mastercard have a pretty effective duopoly, too! Their fees and chargeback procedures are a drag on the entire economy. Getting banned by them effectively kills your ability to accept payments, and many legal but politically unpopular businesses find themselves in the crosshairs.

Is that right? I thought there were several payment service providers and interchange networks.
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