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Bank dress code: "makeup will enhance your personality"

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Re: Bank dress code: "makeup will enhance your personality"

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There should be a hacker-developer version of this, to be published in hex by Google.

Ideabolt: How about a startup that gives fashion tips for hackers? How to give off that "I'm intelligent and don't give a damn" feeling with gusto, what t-shirts to buy? What shoes does Sergei wear? Where does Steve gets his black turtlenecks, etc.

Re: Bank dress code: "makeup will enhance your personality"

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Perhaps they should consider a form of A/B testing. It's certainly true that people are strongly biased by looks, and like it or not, outside of the hacker world, where everything is (allegedly) based on ability, appearances really do matter.

People say it shouldn't be so, but it is. Recognising that and using it is a form of societal hacking.

Re: Bank dress code: "makeup will enhance your personality"

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post #2

There should be a hacker-developer version of this, to be published in hex by Google. Ideabolt: How about a startup that gives fashion tips for hackers? How to give off that "I'm intelligent and don't give a damn" feeling with gusto, what t-shirts to buy? What shoes does Sergei wear? Where does Steve gets his black turtlenecks, etc.

Of course, the inverse has gone on for years. I remember a kid of 21 or so many years ago saying that he had supposed that women who wore makeup weren't very intelligent. I thought his amusing since a) it was essentially a class prejudice, and b) I doubted a young nerd's ability to distinguish makeup lightly applied.

Re: Bank dress code: "makeup will enhance your personality"

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post #5
post #2

There should be a hacker-developer version of this, to be published in hex by Google. Ideabolt: How about a startup that gives fashion tips for hackers? How to give off that "I'm intelligent and don't give a damn" feeling with gusto, what t-shirts to buy? What shoes does Sergei wear? Where does Steve gets his black turtlenecks, etc.

Of course, the inverse has gone on for years. I remember a kid of 21 or so many years ago saying that he had supposed that women who wore makeup weren't very intelligent. I thought his amusing since a) it was essentially a class prejudice, and b) I doubted a young nerd's ability to distinguish makeup lightly applied.

While his statement was definitely prejudiced, don't you think assuming that 21-year-old nerds can't identify lightly applied makeup is also somewhat prejudicial?

Re: Bank dress code: "makeup will enhance your personality"

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Although UBS titled this document a dresscode it seems to be more like a dress handbook from the snippets that have been translated.

Overall I think it's an intriguing idea. I've known quite a few people (myself included) that have harmed peoples' perceptions of them simply by not appearing professional. I had used to think it would be a big burden on my time, but it's amazing what taking 5 - 10 minutes a day will do to improve your image.

Re: Bank dress code: "makeup will enhance your personality"

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Although UBS titled this document a dresscode it seems to be more like a dress handbook from the snippets that have been translated. Overall I think it's an intriguing idea. I've known quite a few people (myself included) that have harmed peoples' perceptions of them simply by not appearing professional. I had used to think it would be a big burden on my time, but it's amazing what taking 5 - 10 minutes a day will do…

I have a friend who apparently never learned to make the 'th' sound, and just replaces it with the 'd' sound or at the end of words with the 'tch' sound. He runs his own business and does moderately well for himself, but I tend to find that speech habit very distracting and can only assume many of the people he does business with are the same. I've considered bringing it up to him as something he could improve on, but I haven't figured out a way to tell him that wouldn't sound horribly condescending.

Re: Bank dress code: "makeup will enhance your personality"

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Given that this is a document for the swiss division of ubs, I'm not really too surprised.

If hiring is any indication, I know that in France (not 100% sure specifically about Switzerland) it's pretty much required to submit a photo of yourself with any job application/CV. I think this is a good reflection of the kind of thought process that goes on in some workplaces.

If they think they can judge your worthiness for a given position by your appearance in a photo, I can only imagine the importance they put on daily dress at the office.

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