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Re: iPadOS

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Will iPadOS include a calculator app?

Exactly the question I had! It is non sense that Apple hasn’t added calculator app to iPad after all these years. Just avoiding the confusion and disappointment of customers should be enough for them to do it but they haven’t done it after all these years.

They're still working on perfecting the one-button calculator.

Re: iPadOS

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"long-press on the reload button" Wow. I've somehow missed this little gem. I usually requested the desktop site via the share sheet option but this is far nicer. Ditto for a quick way to disable content blockers. Thanks!

The other Safari pro-tip: long press the new tab button to reopen recently closed tabs

And... long press the tabs button to close my 244 open tabs at once. Long press everything!

Re: iPadOS

#163

Apple in 2009: Web browsing on a desktop is cumbersome and painful Apple in 2019: We've brought the desktop browsing experience to the iPad I mean I get it, they're maturing the platform. But window snapping and home screen widgets seem very "Windows Vista". That combined with the new swipe keyboard and finally adding storage support... it really just seems like playing catch up for things that have existed for over…

> it really just seems like playing catch up At the surface level, it does. However, at the implementation level, I think Apple is slowly reimagining all of these things for a new paradigm — and the new paradigm has needed time to evolve slowly, for Apple to see what directions its users and developers wanted to go in, and to take the time to decide how to do things. For example: the sidebar on Vista was next to usel…

I completely get what you're saying. Thinking about it more now, I was pretty off. Yeah, those were the reasons that Windows widgets failed and Dashboard Widgets on OS X were always hidden which made them pretty unusable. But, on Android I've got a ton of options for widgets and I still don't use them.

I think the only useful one I've really found is weather. Maybe that's because I don't use my calendar. Just going through the list of the ones I have available, I don't see any that really bring any value to what I'm doing.

What's replaced what I've used widgets for in the past is more context-aware tasks. I've got tasks in tasker for doing things like when I plug into the headphone jack, either my podcasts app or music app pops up (depending on which was accessed last).

Obviously I'm more of a power user, but I really think iOS/iPad OS could benefit from a workflow subsystem. Things like activities in Android and the AppleScript system in macOS are insanely powerful for professional users. Unfortunately, it seems like most Apple apps in macOS seem to be doing away with AppleScript API's.

Re: iPadOS

#164

Apple in 2009: Web browsing on a desktop is cumbersome and painful Apple in 2019: We've brought the desktop browsing experience to the iPad I mean I get it, they're maturing the platform. But window snapping and home screen widgets seem very "Windows Vista". That combined with the new swipe keyboard and finally adding storage support... it really just seems like playing catch up for things that have existed for over…

> it really just seems like playing catch up At the surface level, it does. However, at the implementation level, I think Apple is slowly reimagining all of these things for a new paradigm — and the new paradigm has needed time to evolve slowly, for Apple to see what directions its users and developers wanted to go in, and to take the time to decide how to do things. For example: the sidebar on Vista was next to usel…

> iOS widgets, on the other hand, directly tap into applications, can come in variable sizes, have a somewhat uniform presentation style, and one visits the Home screen many more times than one clicks the Show Desktop button on Windows.

Android has supported exactly this since 1.5 (2009).

> The actual concept, at least as of iPadOS (as opposed to iOS 11 and 12), is more like macOS' Spaces or Mission Control.

I honestly have no idea what you're talking about here. Multiple workspaces aren't exactly a new innovation, and Mission Control just seems to be a fancier but less usable variant of alt+tab.

Re: iPadOS

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The other Safari pro-tip: long press the new tab button to reopen recently closed tabs

Im always fascinated by program shortcuts almost no one knows about. How did you learn about long pressing in safari?

Personally I'm always impressed that people put up with this kind of stuff from Apple. Press the home button 3 times, hold it for 3 seconds then swipe in a Z shape to take a screenshot!

Re: iPadOS

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The other Safari pro-tip: long press the new tab button to reopen recently closed tabs

Im always fascinated by program shortcuts almost no one knows about. How did you learn about long pressing in safari?

This is what always confuses me when people say "macOS/iOS is soooo intuitive!" - discoverability of features is well, horrible. You have to long/3d/long 3d press all manner of elements to discover, not to mention single/two/three finger swipes in differing directions, from screen, from edge.

Re: iPadOS

#167
post #157

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The other Safari pro-tip: long press the new tab button to reopen recently closed tabs

Im always fascinated by program shortcuts almost no one knows about. How did you learn about long pressing in safari?

MacOSXHints used to be the place to go prior to its closure in 2014 — haven't found anything with similar quality since.

Re: iPadOS

#168

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> it really just seems like playing catch up At the surface level, it does. However, at the implementation level, I think Apple is slowly reimagining all of these things for a new paradigm — and the new paradigm has needed time to evolve slowly, for Apple to see what directions its users and developers wanted to go in, and to take the time to decide how to do things. For example: the sidebar on Vista was next to usel…

> iOS widgets, on the other hand, directly tap into applications, can come in variable sizes, have a somewhat uniform presentation style, and one visits the Home screen many more times than one clicks the Show Desktop button on Windows. Android has supported exactly this since 1.5 (2009). > The actual concept, at least as of iPadOS (as opposed to iOS 11 and 12), is more like macOS' Spaces or Mission Control. I honest…

> Android has supported exactly this since 1.5 (2009)

But I think those widgets are still so Vista/Dashboard-like in nature; they're made to look good and present simple information, but rare are the widgets that are generally more useful than the features built directly into the launcher (of which my favourite Android launcher remains Nova).

> I honestly have no idea what you're talking about here. Multiple workspaces aren't exactly a new innovation

I didn't say the iPadOS implementation was a new innovation. You might be trying to read something into what I said that isn't there.

> Mission Control just seems to be a fancier but less usable variant of alt+tab

The difference is that Mission Control doesn't just handle open windows or apps, it also handles groups of windows (Spaces). It's also far from being less usable, especially if you are accustomed to using multitouch gestures — and with things like MacBook or Magic Trackpads, the crowd of people who're allergic to taking their hands of the keyboard no longer have the monopoly on productivity.

Basically, they took that productivity and brought it to a touch-first system, making it work for touch.

Not a new innovation, no. But the best kind of innovation: taking something that exists and improving upon it.

(And iOS already has Cmd-Tab support)

Re: iPadOS

#169

What's old is new again! Mac OS became Mac OS X became OS X became macOS. iPhone OS, whatever it was called on the iPod touch and iPad OS merged to be called iOS, and now there's a new iPadOS.

No, the OS on iPads and iPods Touch was always called iOS - the OS was only called iPhone OS for a very short period of time.

Re: iPadOS

#170
post #157

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Im always fascinated by program shortcuts almost no one knows about. How did you learn about long pressing in safari?

This is what always confuses me when people say "macOS/iOS is soooo intuitive!" - discoverability of features is well, horrible. You have to long/3d/long 3d press all manner of elements to discover, not to mention single/two/three finger swipes in differing directions, from screen, from edge.

This comment is like a time machine back to the old Android vs iPhone battles. Just let it go, the war is over. Did anyone win?
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