Starting $11000 for a Mac Pro plus display That's a bargain compared to the LISA, which was only $25k adjusted for inflation! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Lisa
Which was incredibly advanced for its time!
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#112This seems to be a luxury statement piece for for 99% of what I would consider to be professional workers: people who spend 8 hours a day consuming text and video, and producing knowledge work.
As a software engineer, I just can't quite figure out when the "Pro" label might apply to me these days. The iMac Pro and MacBook Pro labels seem apt, but the Mac Pro and Apple Pro Display labels do not.
It just feels kind of "un-Apple" that it takes research to figure out what works for me, and their product categorization is now rather opaque.
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#113Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why not just buy a 4K monitor from another company?
Same reason I didn't buy a 1440 rez Dell when I originally bought the Cinema display: the Apple product is supposed to "integrate seamlessly, for a full cinema experience, and an orgasmic combination of fanboism". The display also made for a great MBP docking station back in the day. And it's still a nice display, if ten years old. I want another one of those, only moar pixelz. And not five thousand g-ddamned dollars…
I want a million dollars and a pony, but we don't always get what we want!
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#114Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep, it doesn't matter if reference displays cost $40k+, if most people who thought they'd want to buy an Apple display are comparing against displays that cost $1k ± $500. I think they'll end up selling the new displays to two market segments: (1) people who actually use the high-end features in their work, and (2) people who have deep/corporate pockets and want to show off that they can afford the most expensive te…
> Yep, it doesn't matter if reference displays cost $40k+, if most people who thought they'd want to buy an Apple display are comparing against displays that cost $1k ± $500. This display is for a completely different audience. For the audience you're talking about, Apple sells pretty great LG UltraFine 4K and 5K displays already.
I have a 5k iMac with 27". I would like to have a slightly larger display, but there are not many high-dpi displays around. There would be a large market for a screen larger than 27", high-dpi, and somewhat less expensive than the new display.
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#115I'm hearing that the LG displays were running out of stock, possibly in anticipation of a new Apple display. Sure enough...wait a minute, FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS?! Oh, I understand it's a reference-quality, blah, blah, blah, but I just need something to replace an aging Cinema display that was originally $1000. The fucking stand for the new display costs that much (note the audience response when that price popped on t…
So it has an insane resolution for an insane amount of money. The original monitor also had an insane resolution for the time, but did not cost 5k. 1k is pricey for a monitor, but understandable. If they had segmented and offered a lower resolution monitor for a lower price (basically, an updated Cinema/Thunderbolt display), that would have been enough. The greedy beancounters have fully taken over. Subjective, but t…
It can't be any worse than the iMac. While yes it is subjective but Apple has had a pretty long list of ugly and hideous prpducts.
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#116Complaining only signals that you are not the market they’re targeting. This is for Hollywood media makers, high end studios, etc. This was never to be a mass market item.
And... don’t discount the luxury signaling effect people with money will do with hardware like this. It’s the real gold Apple Watch all over again.
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#117Earlier quoted context omitted.
The 4k LG display was updated/rereleased: https://9to5mac.com/2019/05/24/lg-ultrafine-display-review-2... The 5k LG display is still MIA and there isn't a competitor. (and as someone who bought a 5K LG display on release, I'm surprised that's still the case)
That new 4K no longer has the density to comfortably pixel double. They pretty much made it as useless as every other monitor.
The pixel dimensions and scaling didn't work out so well, it was really awkward. Scaling to the same UI size as the MacBook Pro 13" and 15" the display showed scaling artifacts a screen door effect. When scaling to native resolution the UI elements were far too big and there wasn't enough screen space. The new 4K will scale much better to the MacBook UI sizes.
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#118Is it just me or is it odd that they show how the new display can be connected to a Mac Pro or a Macbook Pro, but it doesn't feature even 2 inputs so you can connect both and switch between as needed? That was already the reason why I bought the Dell 30" screen instead of the Cinema Display, as it only had a single input.
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#119Earlier quoted context omitted.
Just to be sure, you get that this display isn't targeted at developers? :)
I do get it, but my question remains: what does Apple suggest that I, a developer/prosumer, buy? Something without an Apple logo on it?
At this time, yes. They saying "go and buy display without our logo, as now we're focusing on other pro group". For years now Apple after each conference was bashed for lack pro hardware and display for video editors, etc.
I would bet that next year will be with smaller displays for everyone, and maybe native terminal on iPad... :)
Either way todays WWDC was one of the best in recent years, and they responded in a good way to many problems and wishes.
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#120I'm confused, didn't they spend a while talking about how great the 8k streaming/editing/etc is on the new mac? Why isn't this an 8k monitor?
After all the dell UP3218K has been available for a while now and its 8k (and actually priced less, and comes with a stand). Frankly, it looks nicer too as they seem to have overdone the industrial cheese grader look IMHO.