Did he say $999 for the stand?!!
> The stand and VESA mount costs extra because it’s Apple.
For me the last line in the article obnoxiously sums up Apple's attitude towards pricing.
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#82Maybe a bit off-topic, but each of these announcements seems to be posted here on HN as a TechCrunch link.
Can we not do that?
Their site is very hard to browse these days, and there are plenty of better options.
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#83You could hear a gasp in the crowd when they listed $999 for the stand alone. Apple is certainly pushing themselves up-market with this one.
By up-market, they're pushing themselves out of my market. $999 for a stand? No thanks, I can think of plenty of better things to spend $999 on.
You probably weren't their target market then. Most likely it will be companies buying this for their employees, not consumers for themselves.
Whether releasing this without an upgraded consumer/prosumer level display was a good idea is another question.
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#85Did he say $999 for the stand?!!
I guess you could prop your $6000 monitor up against the wall or some milk crates or something. Are they including a power cable in the box or is that a $99 extra?
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#86Earlier quoted context omitted.
So it has an insane resolution for an insane amount of money. The original monitor also had an insane resolution for the time, but did not cost 5k. 1k is pricey for a monitor, but understandable. If they had segmented and offered a lower resolution monitor for a lower price (basically, an updated Cinema/Thunderbolt display), that would have been enough. The greedy beancounters have fully taken over. Subjective, but t…
But its not an insane resolution. Its twice as expensive as 8k monitors and the only reason they used a proprietary resolution was to attempt to justify it. I thought the monitor was going to be around 2-3k like others in its class. I agree that the stand might be the ugliest thing they've ever made.
I don’t think that the resolution was an attempt to justify the price. If that was the case, why go down in resolution from what’s available? Maybe if they were selling a 9k I would buy it.
Based off some back of the envelope math I did a while ago, I think Apple decided that 6k is the maximum usable resolution for a desktop monitor. At reasonable viewing distances you should be able to tell the difference between a 4K and 8k monitor, but you won’t be able to resolve every single detail of the 8k, hence 6k.
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#87There also does not appear to be a front-facing camera on the display.
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#88Earlier quoted context omitted.
Are there OLED panels available with this size and pixel density? My understanding is also that OLED panels currently can suffer a bit from burn-in, or at least color stability problems, which is a no-go for reference monitors.
That what I meant, a built in calibration arm/camera unit plus easily replacable panel w/o driver unit might have been a killer feature. But replaceable and Apple don't mix. To me this looks like a overengineered consumer device, with insane macro-scale part count and failures/uniformity issues just waiting to happen. Besides local contrast issues with in a LED driven pixel area and the borders between them. You can…
> The $40k Sony device mentioned is OLED btw.
...and it still burns in, degrades, etc. It's not supposed to show a desktop.
Even with a replaceable panel, it would be a very costly affair. LCD panels are mass market products, even if they happen to be (cut as) 6K or 8K.
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#89I'm hearing that the LG displays were running out of stock, possibly in anticipation of a new Apple display. Sure enough...wait a minute, FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS?! Oh, I understand it's a reference-quality, blah, blah, blah, but I just need something to replace an aging Cinema display that was originally $1000. The fucking stand for the new display costs that much (note the audience response when that price popped on t…
Yep, it doesn't matter if reference displays cost $40k+, if most people who thought they'd want to buy an Apple display are comparing against displays that cost $1k ± $500. I think they'll end up selling the new displays to two market segments: (1) people who actually use the high-end features in their work, and (2) people who have deep/corporate pockets and want to show off that they can afford the most expensive te…
> Yep, it doesn't matter if reference displays cost $40k+, if most people who thought they'd want to buy an Apple display are comparing against displays that cost $1k ± $500.
This display is for a completely different audience. For the audience you're talking about, Apple sells pretty great LG UltraFine 4K and 5K displays already.
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#90Absolutely not interested in spending that much for something that’s not OLED. OLED is the future of display technologies. We’re already seeing it hit the laptop display market. You’ll get significantly better contrast for professional work, power savings, and reduced eye strain from not staring at 1000nit light bulbs all day. Also the stand part was funny.
OLED is absolute crap. Low brightness, slower than LCD, burnin, uses more energy for bright UIs, turns yellow with time (as blue LEDs degrade faster), and a thousand more things I don't remember. OLED is only sold because of eye-candy.