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Antitrust Troubles Snowball for Tech Giants as Lawmakers Join In

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Re: Antitrust Troubles Snowball for Tech Giants as Lawmakers Join In

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The potential cases against the large tech firms are all coming in at the same time. I wonder what could be driving it. If they move foward, I hope that the nature of the results are good for the public (i.e. preventing anti-competitive behavior)

Government finally had it with the amount of power they have over culture and messing with their 3 letter agency initiatives?

I am one of those pessimistic folk who views everything on a geopolitical stage as a power struggle, so..

Re: Antitrust Troubles Snowball for Tech Giants as Lawmakers Join In

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The potential cases against the large tech firms are all coming in at the same time. I wonder what could be driving it. If they move foward, I hope that the nature of the results are good for the public (i.e. preventing anti-competitive behavior)

It's just in time for the 2020 election cycle. I'd love to share your hope but undoing 20 years of Bork [0] will take more than unofficial talks with Apple and FB.

[0] https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2012/12/20/antit...

Re: Antitrust Troubles Snowball for Tech Giants as Lawmakers Join In

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post #4

The potential cases against the large tech firms are all coming in at the same time. I wonder what could be driving it. If they move foward, I hope that the nature of the results are good for the public (i.e. preventing anti-competitive behavior)

Government finally had it with the amount of power they have over culture and messing with their 3 letter agency initiatives? I am one of those pessimistic folk who views everything on a geopolitical stage as a power struggle, so..

From the left, populist economists calling for Big Tech to be broken up for monopoly and tax dodging.

From the right, culture warriors calling for regulation so their chosen avatars of free speech are not de-platformed.

From the bottom, consumer advocates angry at the privacy abuses of large corporations, not to mention increasingly shoddy quality caused by lack of competition.

From the top, as you mentioned- tech companies flouting state power, including in the realm of state surveillance.

十面埋伏 - attack from ten directions.

Re: Antitrust Troubles Snowball for Tech Giants as Lawmakers Join In

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Not MS? They're all kinda up to the same shenanigans really

Does Microsoft really have any monopolies? They have a big OS market share, but operating systems have become less and less relevant as mobile computing grows. Same deal with office.

Bing is nowhere near the market share as google. Azure competes with AWS and others. Xbox competes with Sony and Nintendo. Microsoft store competes with Steam. IE and edge are also being beaten by Chrome. I think the argument that Microsoft has a monopoly is much less feasible.

One acquaintance of mine that works at MS humorously remarked on the irony of situation along these lines, "Back in the day Microsoft was the Big Bad. But now we're not big in social media, we're not big in advertising or search. All these other companies are taking the heat now - not for our lack of trying to get into these spaces, though (laughs)."

Re: Antitrust Troubles Snowball for Tech Giants as Lawmakers Join In

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Not MS? They're all kinda up to the same shenanigans really

Not to say there aren't things they could probably be investigated for, but in the cases of search, cloud computing, and mobile Microsoft has actually been the 'underdog' competitor. They successfully gained inroads to cloud computing thanks to Azure, but Bing has never had the search market share of Google, and mobile offerings were never Android or iOS. Microsoft as the 'victim' of anti-competitive behavior would have been inconceivable 20 years ago, but technology changes that quickly and if you miss the boat you can find yourself in a very tricky spot.

Re: Antitrust Troubles Snowball for Tech Giants as Lawmakers Join In

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Not MS? They're all kinda up to the same shenanigans really

If anything, their efforts in search and cloud compute delayed or muted the case for monopolistic behavior by others as they can point to MS and say, see, they are competing against us successfully, we’re not the big bad monopolists some claim us to be.
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