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Re: New Mac Pro

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Post by goda90 »

swah wrote: post #6
vbezhenar wrote: post #2

That price is just absurd. I waited for Mac Pro announcement to decide whether I'll stay with Windows or jump to macOS. Macbooks are not for me, but I hoped for a remotely reasonable priced computer, something like $2000 with another $1000 to expand with more memory, etc. But $6000 for 8-core CPU, 256 GB SSD, GPU that is less powerful than my old $200 NVidia 1060? It's just laughable. Otherwise seems like a good mach…

But your build doesn't run macOS.... that's all that matters for so many folks. (I aggree - I feel like maybe I will never be able to afford or justify a Mac-based system in my 3rd world country...)

Strides have been made in virtualizing macOS, so that might not be holding people back much anymore.

Re: New Mac Pro

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Post by amarshall »

The price saddens me. The $6K base is twice the base of the 2013 Mac Pro when it was released. Some quick spec-ing for a somewhat-equivalent DIY build gives somewhere around $3K. The build I was already spec-ing for my next workstation has 2x RAM, 16x SSD, SFP+ NIC and is under $5K.

I hope at least that the SSDs are standard M.2, but looking at the pictures I’m not sure they are.

Re: New Mac Pro

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Post by Nursie »

Wow that thing is pricey! Proper high-end workstation I guess. Some folks will have a need for one.

Personally I was hoping for an updated (whiskey-lake and at least one thunderbolt port) Macbook. Next year maybe...

Re: New Mac Pro

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Post by vbezhenar »

vesrah wrote: post #7
vbezhenar wrote: post #2

That price is just absurd. I waited for Mac Pro announcement to decide whether I'll stay with Windows or jump to macOS. Macbooks are not for me, but I hoped for a remotely reasonable priced computer, something like $2000 with another $1000 to expand with more memory, etc. But $6000 for 8-core CPU, 256 GB SSD, GPU that is less powerful than my old $200 NVidia 1060? It's just laughable. Otherwise seems like a good mach…

How does the Mac Mini not meet what you're asking for?

I want tower case, silent and performant. I want powerful GPU for few games I'm playing. I want ECC memory. I want to put one or two HDDs along with main SSD. Mac mini does not sound like something I would like to use. I don't need small size, I have enough room. I don't need portability, I work from one place.

Re: New Mac Pro

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Post by bluedino »

The thing the Mac Pro does is magically make the price of every other computer look that much better.

$6000 for a computer? Johnson, that's insane.

What about $4999 for an iMac Pro? It comes with a display.

Great, order it!

What about $2499 for a Mac Mini with 32GB and 1TB SSD?

Great, order it!

What about $2499 for a Macbook Pro?

Great, order it!

Re: New Mac Pro

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Post by yurishimo »

Really excited to see the future of this hardware even though I'm not the target demographic. The ability to swap out with newer PCIe components down the line will be nice and it appears Apple is likely using some sort of desktop socket, so mounts and adapters for customizing the CPU will be available from 3rd parties eventually. Hopefully Intel doesn't change the CPU socket out from underneath everyone too soon.

I'm also curious if it will support PCIe Gen4 since Apple has obviously worked closely with AMD. I'm not up to speed on the specifics on whether Intel CPUs can take advantage of that hardware yet though or if we'll have to wait a year. Maybe that's why Apple didn't give a hard release date?

What I'm really disappointed about is the new display. I would gladly pay another $1-2k similar to the old cinema displays for something that's been updated but without all the HDR features. $5k for a display is insane for anyone except video professionals who need the HDR capabilities. The icing on the cake is getting nickel and dimed for the stand too. $200 I think they could make a good faith argument, but for $1k and it doesn't even come with a vesa mount in the box is really disappointing.

You could definitely tell the crowd was bummed on that tidbit in particular.

Overall though, still a great showing by Apple and a move in the right direction for power users.

Re: New Mac Pro

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Post by vbezhenar »

CoolGuySteve wrote: post #8
vbezhenar wrote: post #2

That price is just absurd. I waited for Mac Pro announcement to decide whether I'll stay with Windows or jump to macOS. Macbooks are not for me, but I hoped for a remotely reasonable priced computer, something like $2000 with another $1000 to expand with more memory, etc. But $6000 for 8-core CPU, 256 GB SSD, GPU that is less powerful than my old $200 NVidia 1060? It's just laughable. Otherwise seems like a good mach…

Same here, I'm looking to build a machine to process large data sets. So far nothing can beat Linux on an EPYC or ThreadRipper on price/performance. It would cost half as much for a 1TB NVMe SSD, RTX 2080, at least 16 cores, etc. The only reason I'm even waiting is because Zen 2 is right around the corner. The 256GB SSD is so confusing. The price difference between a 970 EVO 256GB and a 970 EVO 512GB for example is o…

I think that Nvidia will release cards for this Mac. May be even existing ones will fit. There are PCI-E ports there after all.
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