Apple Pro Display XDR • Hacker News Board

Why doesn't Apple introduce different options? For example, I would never need a 6k display, but having a nice, matte finish, 1000 nit display at 1440p or 4k would definitely be on my radar.

If they sold smaller resolution displays at more appropriate price points, I would be more inclined to buy it. They offer similar pricing structures for their iPhone and MacBook lines, so why not apply the same to monitors?

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Post by dictum » Mon, Jun 03, 2019, 7:24 PM UTC

sleavey wrote: post #11

The person describing the stand said it generates lots of heat so they need to put a (fancy looking) heat sink on the back. If you take their advice and chain 6 of these to one Mac Pro, what sort of heat output do you get?

There goes my snark about it having an Apple T2 inside.

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Post by klodolph » Mon, Jun 03, 2019, 7:24 PM UTC

mxfh wrote: post #25

How do reference and fancy FALD (Full Array Local Dimming) do even go in the same sentence? Just give the people a OLED panel subscription instead of this LED unifomity nightmare waiting to happen.

Are there OLED panels available with this size and pixel density? My understanding is also that OLED panels currently can suffer a bit from burn-in, or at least color stability problems, which is a no-go for reference monitors.

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Post by uasm » Mon, Jun 03, 2019, 7:24 PM UTC

empath75 wrote: post #2

Did he say $999 for the stand?!!

That's inflation for you.

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Post by holy_city » Mon, Jun 03, 2019, 7:24 PM UTC

djsumdog wrote: post #29

jannyfer wrote: post #19

The “XDR” part of the name seems a bit out of place for an Apple product. I guess I’m stuck in the past and Apple is really a different company now.

Yea, I didn't see any mention of HDR support. Is XDR their rebranding? Will macOS support HDR10 or DolbyHDR when this monitor comes out? Will it be supported on any HDR screen or just this overpriced one? Or does this monitor not have HDR at all? HDR so far only seems supported by Windows, xBox, and PS4. Linux/X11 and Mac still have no HDR support.

They talked about it at length. Per the keynote it's 10bit color at 1000 nits/1600 peak which would put it at about Display HDR1000 (but no mention if it's certified, so probably not).

It can't support Dolby Vision (requires 12 bit color), which means that it can't replace reference displays for professionals.

Also HDR playback has been supported for awhile on MacOS, since high sierra it's been one of those "it just works" features.

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Post by gnicholas » Mon, Jun 03, 2019, 7:26 PM UTC

mikestew wrote: post #5

I'm hearing that the LG displays were running out of stock, possibly in anticipation of a new Apple display. Sure enough...wait a minute, FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS?! Oh, I understand it's a reference-quality, blah, blah, blah, but I just need something to replace an aging Cinema display that was originally $1000. The fucking stand for the new display costs that much (note the audience response when that price popped on t…

Yep, it doesn't matter if reference displays cost $40k+, if most people who thought they'd want to buy an Apple display are comparing against displays that cost $1k ± $500.

I think they'll end up selling the new displays to two market segments: (1) people who actually use the high-end features in their work, and (2) people who have deep/corporate pockets and want to show off that they can afford the most expensive tech imaginable.

There are quite possibly more people in the second group than the first.

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Post by gridlockd » Mon, Jun 03, 2019, 7:27 PM UTC

ilovecaching wrote: post #26

Absolutely not interested in spending that much for something that’s not OLED. OLED is the future of display technologies. We’re already seeing it hit the laptop display market. You’ll get significantly better contrast for professional work, power savings, and reduced eye strain from not staring at 1000nit light bulbs all day. Also the stand part was funny.

OLED absolutely is not the future of display technology. Besides phones, it's a stopgap solution for TVs until MicroLEDs become feasible.

OLED makes for terrible monitors to use for hours on end, with all the stationary UI elements causing burn-in. It's an unsolved problem.

OLED also isn't all that bright, especially on a smaller screen. You want those nits for bright HDR content, like the sun, not to stare at it all day.

OLED also isn't substantially more energy efficient.

OLED visibly degrades in quality well within its lifetime.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love OLED TVs to watch films on, but they don't make for good monitors.

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Post by dlivingston » Mon, Jun 03, 2019, 7:27 PM UTC

geophile wrote: post #28

Apple is just completely out of touch now, aren't they?

This is not for consumers. This is for AV industry professionals whose companies are footing the bill.

Apple has, rightly, been under fire lately for forgetting about the pro market. This display, in the context of the presentation, is intended to demonstrate that their professional focus is back.