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Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by peeters »

lotsofpulp wrote: post #98
peeters wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Problem is, today I agree, 10 years ago it would've been a tossup, and 5 years from now, who knows? These "trusted central broker" privacy models are nicer than giving your info to dozens of individual actors (when you trust that central broker more than anyone else), but they also become a single point of attack/failure.

You will never be able to know the future, you can only make decisions based on information available now.

My point is some of the information available now is that historically, companies that respect your privacy today might not tomorrow. And might only be respecting your privacy to get a monopoly on your data so they can exploit it later.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by golem14 »

albertgoeswoof wrote: post #50
mjlee wrote: post #3

Disposable, anonymous email forwarding is a massive step forward for privacy. I know we've all been doing it for a while, but this on a consumer level is fantastic.

If you don’t use apple, I just built this as a stand-alone product: https://idbloc.co

From the web page, I cannot tell what pricing is going to be - looks like you go out of your way to not scare off potential users. I can't find pricing information at all via Google searches, either.

That's something I really dislike. Perhaps it's a necessary evil.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by alex_young »

falcolas wrote: post #85
jbeckham wrote: post #53

Maybe I'm cynical, but this looks more like a data hording scheme than a protect my privacy enhancement. If I use Google to sign in, Google and the app has that data and can monetize it. Now if I sign in using Apple, they are going to have the data to monetize. They may keep the app from getting my information, but that means that their data is better than someone else's data, so it is more valuable. Also, they are g…

Apple doesn't, to the best of my knowledge, monetize data, either through ads or selling it to third parties. I'd welcome a clarification if I'm wrong.

Yet

Re: Apple Sign In

#104

Post by eitland »

saagarjha wrote: post #65
dpq wrote: post #58

Sounds like a good time to remind people about Telegram having a similar function for quite some time now. And just yesterday they announced a feature to simplify logging into web sites using TG bots: https://telegram.org/blog/privacy-discussions-web-bots It might be a personal choice, but for stuff when privacy is really important I'd definitely pick Telegram over Apple, no matter how much the latter claims to keep…

> I'd definitely pick Telegram over Apple Why?

Works everywhere with the devices and OS you have like (or can afford): Android, Linux desktop, Mac, iOS, Windows and more.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by albertgoeswoof »

bglusman wrote: post #93
albertgoeswoof wrote: post #50

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don’t use apple, I just built this as a stand-alone product: https://idbloc.co

This looks a lot like 33mail ( https://33mail.com/ ) which I've been using pretty happily for 4-5 years now (and paying I think $10-15 a year for, so a lot less than this on a per month basis, but they're not strictly unlimited)

33mail is cool but the domain being the same & unique for each user removes the privacy element, and it asks users to make up their own addresses (and remember them), which can be dangerous. For example you might create facebook@dave.33mail.com, so it’s very easy to guess what Dave’s twitter login is or other target.

With Idbloc (and apple sign in) the address is completely random and untraceable, and it’s impossible to tell which addresses belong to which users.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by yamann »

This has to be a joke. The only purpose for this BS is to provide Apple more information about your activity around the web since they are at a big disadvantage compared to Google and Facebook.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by saagarjha »

kartikeye wrote: post #99
saagarjha wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would they need to do this?

Gives them valuable insight on user priority & needs. One who has it controls the web. This is what Google has and Apple wants it too. Only difference is Apple won’t sell it, just use it to refine its product service mix. Google/FB do both besides preempting/ buying emerging competitors.

Apple has never shown any inclination for doing this.

Re: Apple Sign In

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Post by slim »

jbeckham wrote: post #53

Maybe I'm cynical, but this looks more like a data hording scheme than a protect my privacy enhancement. If I use Google to sign in, Google and the app has that data and can monetize it. Now if I sign in using Apple, they are going to have the data to monetize. They may keep the app from getting my information, but that means that their data is better than someone else's data, so it is more valuable. Also, they are g…

they also have all your emails coming from that app
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