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Up to 25 cups of coffee a day still safe for heart health, study says

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Re: Up to 25 cups of coffee a day still safe for heart health, study says

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Having not drunk an ANSI cup of ISO coffee, what is the approximate amount being discussed? A pack a day (of ground beans)? How many GreatBrittan cups are in, e.g. a typical Swedes' coffee?

I would guess 25 cups translates to an excessive amount anywhere in the world.

Re: Up to 25 cups of coffee a day still safe for heart health, study says

#34

When we parametrize complex systems in studies such as this, I feel we tend to lose the forest for the trees. Okay, so maybe 25 cups of coffee a day won't destroy my heart. But this is what happens when I have 5 cups of coffee a day: 1) I get jumpy and I feel anxious. If I drink too much I start to feel what I can only describe as existential dread (I know it's weird). 2) I can't hold on to things because my hands ar…

> If I drink too much I start to feel what I can only describe as existential dread (I know it's weird).

Not weird at all. It’s that free-form, nameless, unspecified anxiety.

Re: Up to 25 cups of coffee a day still safe for heart health, study says

#35

I love coffee but I feel three per day is pushing it. Do people really drink much more than that?

I probably drink 6-8 cans of soda daily, though they've got less caffeine than a cup of coffee.

I find I just like to sip on something constantly, and water gives me a headache.

Re: Up to 25 cups of coffee a day still safe for heart health, study says

#36
Maybe one day we'll reach the final headline:

Coffee Drinking Irrelevant To Heart Health, Unsure Why We Were Always Writing About The Health Effects Of Coffee Or Why We Repeatedly Rotated Through Every Possible Position On What They May Or May Not Have Been

Re: Up to 25 cups of coffee a day still safe for heart health, study says

#37
I drank five to six cups a day, and felt like I desperately needed it, and scoffed at anyone who suggested I try getting by with less.

At some point I stumbled on an article about the adenosine receptors in your brain will actually compensate for this much caffeine by just growing more of them. I also read that you can actually "kill" these extra receptors by going cold turkey for a week.

So I did it, and it sucked (the second and third days were the worst). But that was a year ago and I now get an equal if not better effect from two cups a coffee each day.

Re: Up to 25 cups of coffee a day still safe for heart health, study says

#38
This article is plastered all over the web with similar title and content wording as if it was copy-pasted and slightly edited numerous times. Sadly no article links.

Eventually I found this PDF: https://heart.bmj.com/content/heartjnl/105/Suppl_6/A8.2.full...

Re: Up to 25 cups of coffee a day still safe for heart health, study says

#40
I don't have any links to hand but I'm fairly darn certain that arrhythmias start showing up way before anyone gets to 25 cups per day, not to mention fluid balance/kidney issues, which can lead to congestive heart failure.

TLDR; arterial stiffness is only one measure of "heart health".

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