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Up to 25 cups of coffee a day still safe for heart health, study says

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Re: Up to 25 cups of coffee a day still safe for heart health, study says

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Post by SketchySeaBeast »

vectorEQ wrote: post #8

sure, pack of cigs a day u can also become 100+ years old. don't forget about the impact on your mental processes and other effects these substances have on you though. they are arguably much worse than cutting off a few of your life years... i used to drink loads of coffee. now i only drink it on occasion, and really it's helped my attention become a lot more stable. caffeine and other substances have varying levels…

> Professor Metin Avkiran, associate medical director at the British Heart Foundation, said in a press release: "There are several conflicting studies saying different things about coffee, and it can be difficult to filter what we should believe and what we shouldn't. This research will hopefully put some of the media reports in perspective, as it rules out one of the potential detrimental effects of coffee on our arteries."

They aren't saying that drinking coffee doesn't have problems, all they are saying is that it doesn't appear to affect the arteries. They aren't trying to provide an anecdote about simple living, it's testing a hypothesis.

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Post by duxup »

mykowebhn wrote: post #4

When we parametrize complex systems in studies such as this, I feel we tend to lose the forest for the trees. Okay, so maybe 25 cups of coffee a day won't destroy my heart. But this is what happens when I have 5 cups of coffee a day: 1) I get jumpy and I feel anxious. If I drink too much I start to feel what I can only describe as existential dread (I know it's weird). 2) I can't hold on to things because my hands ar…

Two is my general limit as well.

I've had conversations about an issue with someone at work and the response was "Three cups today huh man?"

I get a bit worked up sometimes with that third cup.

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Post by teilo »

>The research also showed that moderate and heavy coffee drinkers were most likely to be male, smoke and consume alcohol regularly.

So this shows an obvious problem with the study. They did not rule out co-factors. If the moderate to heavy coffee drinkers are also smoke and consume alcohol regularly, then this already puts them at a higher risk for heart disease, and likely completely dwarfs any effect of caffeine.

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Post by SonsOfThunder »

> even those who drank up to 25 cups a day were no more likely to experience stiffening of the arteries than someone drinking less than a cup a day.

Stiffening of the arteries was not what the doctor at the emergency room mentioned when he told me that I needed to reduce my caffeine intake.

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Post by dllthomas »

SimeVidas wrote: post #19

I love coffee but I feel three per day is pushing it. Do people really drink much more than that?

My dad would set a pot of coffee on a timer at night. In the morning, he'd get up and pour himself a cup of coffee, pour the rest in a thermos, and set another pot of coffee, most of which also went in to the thermos, which would be empty by the end of the day.

Re: Up to 25 cups of coffee a day still safe for heart health, study says

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Post by retrac98 »

I quit caffeine altogether a while ago, and it's made a huge difference to my quality of life and work.

When I wake up, I'm actually awake. When I go to bed, I'm actually sleepy. I don't wake up several times during the night anymore, and I'm not falling sleep mid-afternoon ever day.

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Post by yoz-y »

SimeVidas wrote: post #19

I love coffee but I feel three per day is pushing it. Do people really drink much more than that?

Yes. If I don't manage myself I could drink 6-8 cups. Basically I would go make a coffee, sit down, reach for the cup to drink and realize that it's already empty. Now I mix in decaf and limit myself to 5

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Post by deminature »

retrac98 wrote: post #28

I quit caffeine altogether a while ago, and it's made a huge difference to my quality of life and work. When I wake up, I'm actually awake. When I go to bed, I'm actually sleepy. I don't wake up several times during the night anymore, and I'm not falling sleep mid-afternoon ever day.

I've had some brief breaks recently, and abstaining leads to actually feeling tired around bedtime, falling asleep in a few minutes and waking up feeling very refreshed. I'd recommend every regular caffeine user give it a try.
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