The documentary is on Netflix, it's worth a watch: https://www.netflix.com/watch/80215139
Saw it appear on Netflix a while ago and ignored it.
Now I'm watching it :)
A man who ran out of air at the bottom of the ocean
141–150 of 180 posts
Re: A man who ran out of air at the bottom of the ocean
#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
By this logic, we don't even need to freeze the body. Simply opt in to being resimulated later, since the technology will exist "some day".
However, this won't bring you back, it will just bring back a clone that is exactly like you.
Of course it will bring me back. It's my consciousness, just sans the biological CPU.
Re: A man who ran out of air at the bottom of the ocean
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
It didn't point out any issues... it just made the unsubstantiated claim that a cryonics patient has no chance of ever being revived. It IS physically possible to revive cryonics patients--as in the laws of physics would permit it, even if we don't have anything near the technology required, yet. This isn't a bold claim but rather a statement of fact with respect to information preservation of the vitrification proce…
Actually it is physically impossible to revive cryonics patients because essential information has been irretrievably lost. I don't think you understand the physics (or biology) here.
What information?
Re: A man who ran out of air at the bottom of the ocean
#144> They now use emergency tanks that carry 40 minutes of air rather than five. Glad to see the change, but why even carry a tank with 5 minutes of reserve? Might as well just plan on holding your breath in that case.
Well, it's better than nothing . That's enough to hold your breath 2-3 times, IIRC. That time means a lot .
[deleted]
Re: A man who ran out of air at the bottom of the ocean
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even speaking as a brit, your mixture of metric and imperial and metric fascinates me. I personally would've written 150lb, 6'6 tall, 1ft deep, 37 to 0 degrees
150lb? That always strikes me as distinctly American, as opposed to 10st 10lb.
Oops yes, I would actually have said 10 stone 10. I just copied the comment text because I was focusing on the 2 meters
Re: A man who ran out of air at the bottom of the ocean
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
A lot of "cryonically-frozen" people are only their heads, since it's been well-known for a while that there's no way to unfreeze the bodies. I suspect it may literally be easier to scan their brains than to unfreeze them, even if they were healthier to begin with. That's not a statement of my belief in the ease of scanning a brain; it's a statement of my belief in just how hard it is to "thaw" a body and get anythin…
But that's my point, why even bother freezing the brain, if simply waiting a few centuries more of tech progress will mean you don't even need the brain to be consciously brought back? It's just replacing the faith in one omnipotent's afterlife with another.
How would that work? Future technology, no matter how advanced, would still require the information in your brain to simulate you. The point of cronics is to preserve that information.
Re: A man who ran out of air at the bottom of the ocean
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
At sufficiently high partial pressure, it's toxic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxygen_toxicity Nitrogen becomes narcotic at high pressure; breathing normal air at 30m is like being tipsy, but below 90m it can be fatal. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrogen_narcosis
Nitrogen narcosis is usually called "drunkenness of depth" (if I translate this correctly), because it produce effect like you are drunk. I've seen and heard many stories of experienced divers that would do silly things due this effect; that is why you always have to have partner with you and the rest of the crew near by. This effect is highly dependent of person and I've seen guys goes beyond 40m without getting thi…
I've usually heard nitrogen narcosis referred to as "rapture of the deep"
Re: A man who ran out of air at the bottom of the ocean
#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
By this logic, we don't even need to freeze the body. Simply opt in to being resimulated later, since the technology will exist "some day".
However, this won't bring you back, it will just bring back a clone that is exactly like you.
Suppose we get solid evidence that reincarnation is real. Or even just imagine that it is.
Being held in stasis for an unknown length of times seems like utter hell compared to moving on to your next life.
In that sense, a clone is preferable, but maybe not for the new consciousness inhabiting it.
Re: A man who ran out of air at the bottom of the ocean
#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
But that's my point, why even bother freezing the brain, if simply waiting a few centuries more of tech progress will mean you don't even need the brain to be consciously brought back? It's just replacing the faith in one omnipotent's afterlife with another.
How would that work? Future technology, no matter how advanced, would still require the information in your brain to simulate you. The point of cronics is to preserve that information.
Just simulate the entire universe and pluck the brain structure of the person you're trying to bring back into reality.
You're missing the point though. These solutions entirely rely on future technology development being the omnipotence that gives you afterlife.
Re: A man who ran out of air at the bottom of the ocean
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't. You can only hope that a) future people won't revive you unless they're somewhat confident it'll leave you better off than you were when frozen, and b) worst comes to worst, they can still euthanize you. Cryonics is ultimately a bet on future technology and future humanity .
Future people will use the frozen as a resource. I would buy a 2139-October call option on 100-frozen-hopefuls ... that's when I estimate techniques for revival will be viable and when legal hurdles to mass exploitation will be overcome. In 120 years nobody will care about your intentions in being frozen.
...why? How could there possibly be utility in a corpsicle when you could much more easily achieve the same thing with AI?