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Up to 25 cups of coffee a day still safe for heart health, study says

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Re: Up to 25 cups of coffee a day still safe for heart health, study says

#4
When we parametrize complex systems in studies such as this, I feel we tend to lose the forest for the trees.

Okay, so maybe 25 cups of coffee a day won't destroy my heart.

But this is what happens when I have 5 cups of coffee a day:

1) I get jumpy and I feel anxious. If I drink too much I start to feel what I can only describe as existential dread (I know it's weird).

2) I can't hold on to things because my hands are shaking.

3) I don't sleep as well at night, even if I don't drink any coffee after 12pm.

4) My lymph nodes start to swell. (This last one was really weird for me when I found out that it was caffeine that was causing the lumps in my breast. I'm pretty sure it's the caffeine since both times I had the lumps I quit coffee cold-turkey and the lumps disappeared.)

I now limit myself to two cups of coffee per day. If I'm feeling indulgent I may have a third cup, but that's not daily.

Re: Up to 25 cups of coffee a day still safe for heart health, study says

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When we parametrize complex systems in studies such as this, I feel we tend to lose the forest for the trees. Okay, so maybe 25 cups of coffee a day won't destroy my heart. But this is what happens when I have 5 cups of coffee a day: 1) I get jumpy and I feel anxious. If I drink too much I start to feel what I can only describe as existential dread (I know it's weird). 2) I can't hold on to things because my hands ar…

I think the point here is that people with heart disease needn't worry too much about coffee/caffeine intake. Heart disease affects a large part of the population and even among those who are not effected heart health is still something to be conscious of, especially in middle and old age.

Re: Up to 25 cups of coffee a day still safe for heart health, study says

#8
sure, pack of cigs a day u can also become 100+ years old.

don't forget about the impact on your mental processes and other effects these substances have on you though. they are arguably much worse than cutting off a few of your life years...

i used to drink loads of coffee. now i only drink it on occasion, and really it's helped my attention become a lot more stable. caffeine and other substances have varying levels of effect on people. for me it's pretty intense, but for the person next to me, they feel nothing of it.

long story short: listen to your own mind and body when it comes to your diet. it will tell you what is good and bad if you listen carefully. if you don't listen, perhaps it will become ill as a form of yelling at you to get your attention... ;D

Re: Up to 25 cups of coffee a day still safe for heart health, study says

#10
Two things:

1. I have the feeling both this study and the ones it is trying to contradict are not reproducible, like 99% of other health food type studies

2. Your kidneys are probably going to be the bigger sufferers in this scenario

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