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Re: Reddit Terminal Viewer development is shutting down

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>If you had 1000 people in your house, bump order wouldn't work either It definitely does, and it works better than "popular" sorting, here's how. You walk by rooms and overhear people talking. You hear a lot of small conversations, sorted by most recently heard. You find one you're interested in, and you're welcomed into the room of 2-20 people. You continue having a discussion, and it's less likely for it to turn "…

Well your solution sounds a lot like a traditional chat network or forum, and I agree that they work better for community building. So I think we're probably on the same page there. However I don't think they would work unmodified, as a replacement for the much higher populations of the internet now. Community driven content feed sites are not great at fostering close communities, but they are great at offering a mor…

> Threaded chatrooms are actually a pretty cool alternative, and I would love for them to have more wide spread usage.

Is there any practical prototype or example of threaded real time chats?

Re: Reddit Terminal Viewer development is shutting down

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Yeah, HN is definitely a lot more homogeneous. Even CS centered subreddits have somewhat toxic cultures because of what anonymity sustains. I think HN has a lot fewer visitors than Reddit but has a lot more conscious, thoughtful, experienced, and extremely intelligent minds to think and discuss about topics in the tech field.

That’s probably true (though I’m not sure we’re any more intelligent than any other internet community). My point was just that we shouldn’t mistake homogeny for tolerance of opposing views.

Well, homogeny certainly makes a group far easier to lead, since disagreements will usually be on grounds that are way easier to reach a liveable compromise on.

Re: Reddit Terminal Viewer development is shutting down

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> More concerning, I no longer wish to support reddit as a platform. Widespread astroturfing, manufactured controversy, politics, bullying, incessant nitpicking and arguing. I don't like how people treat each other on the platform, and I don't like how it makes me feel when I use it. Don't think this has to do with Reddit so much as the way we interact with each other online, in general.

> Don't think this has to do with Reddit so much as the way we interact with each other online, in general. Having spent some (great) time in more traditional forums recently I think the algorithmic driven nature of reddit (and HN for that matter) along with it's centralization are the biggest contributors. The scoring systems have gamified online discussions to the point that you can't really have worthwhile discuss…

On the topic of gamification, I really like how Stack Overflow did it, with a focus on earned trust and good and dependable answers. For all its faults, I've never seen a site so great at solving actual problems, and not just within IT.

Re: Reddit Terminal Viewer development is shutting down

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Well your solution sounds a lot like a traditional chat network or forum, and I agree that they work better for community building. So I think we're probably on the same page there. However I don't think they would work unmodified, as a replacement for the much higher populations of the internet now. Community driven content feed sites are not great at fostering close communities, but they are great at offering a mor…

> Threaded chatrooms are actually a pretty cool alternative, and I would love for them to have more wide spread usage. Is there any practical prototype or example of threaded real time chats?

Slack actually has threaded chat, which was really useful when you needed to dig deeper into a topic but it wouldn't be relevant for everyone in the room at the time.

Re: Reddit Terminal Viewer development is shutting down

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I always marvel that Reddit has seemed not have learned even one lesson from Digg. They are literally making the same exact mistakes, and its leading to the same exact results...karma whoring, piling on, ingroup/outgroup ete etc. It seems beyond comprehension to me that they wouldn't have thoroughly looked at the rise and fall of Digg and not made every effort not to follow the same path.

If I had to guess, this is what happens when you make your company data driven at all costs . All the dog-piling leads to higher engagement, more comments made faster as people get the last word in, and more gold/platinum/silver buying as people foam at the mouth to super-bump comments they agree with. Reddit has a strong incentive to make their website a platform where you shout into an abyss that echos back what yo…

Have you read Amusing Ourselves to Death by Neil Postman? If not, give it a read. ^^

Re: Reddit Terminal Viewer development is shutting down

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I wonder what the "next reddit" is going to look like...

Decentralized and based on blockchain. Something like steem but with lower barrier of entry.

I just don't see it. I've tried Steem and some others experimenting with it, and I'm not really impressed. Could you please give me some pointers as to how it would work? On the other hand, have you tried IPFS?

Re: Reddit Terminal Viewer development is shutting down

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> More concerning, I no longer wish to support reddit as a platform. Widespread astroturfing, manufactured controversy, politics, bullying, incessant nitpicking and arguing. Ever since starting a project to collect and analyse the reddit firehose, I've had a series of eye opening experiences about just how manufactured the popular reddit content is. Every day, comments and posts with hundreds to thousands of upvotes…

  deleted by moderators 
  because they don't fit the 
  desired narrative. A small 
  ring of moderators are 
  in control...
Here on HN, it's pretty much the same. You aren't reading the opinions of authentic people. All you get is the selected filtration of a small group of paid staff, compounded by default themes already set in motion by the wider media outlets.

Re: Reddit Terminal Viewer development is shutting down

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> More concerning, I no longer wish to support reddit as a platform. Widespread astroturfing, manufactured controversy, politics, bullying, incessant nitpicking and arguing. Ever since starting a project to collect and analyse the reddit firehose, I've had a series of eye opening experiences about just how manufactured the popular reddit content is. Every day, comments and posts with hundreds to thousands of upvotes…

This is really a sad truth about modern Reddit.

Seems like /r/news, /r/worldnews and many other hyper-popular subs are carefully crafted propaganda machines.

The best way around it to stay subscribed to smaller, more niche subs.

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