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Hollywood studios say they’re quitting Netflix – the truth is more complicated

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Post by vageli »

paulcole wrote: post #24
Causality1 wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a threat, because I don't consider media piracy to be morally any different than "pirating" a recipe by printing it out, "pirating" a joke by retelling it, or "pirating" a book by lending it to a friend. It's not "taken" from anyone, it is replicated by someone who already has it and then given freely to me.

Whatever works for you I guess, lol.

> Whatever works for you I guess, lol.

Do you consider libraries to be facilitating piracy? If not, how do Causality1's examples differ?

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Post by slips »

vageli wrote: post #68
voidwtf wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The problem is that now they want us to have a cable subscription to watch all our normal shows and a network specific subscription to watch our favorite shows. Look at what they’ve done with Star Trek as an example. They’re going hard on the content gating and distribution channel diffusion. Literally to the point where Plex+Radarr/Sonarr has become the go to for content I’m already paying for through my cable/Netfl…

> The problem is that now they want us to have a cable subscription to watch all our normal shows and a network specific subscription to watch our favorite shows. Look at what they’ve done with Star Trek as an example. > They’re going hard on the content gating and distribution channel diffusion. Literally to the point where Plex+Radarr/Sonarr has become the go to for content I’m already paying for through my cable/N…

Radarr is Sonarr for movies.

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Post by mprev »

JamesBarney wrote: post #25
40acres wrote: post #22

I don't think piracy will come back as streaming becomes more segregated, people generally will go with the legitimate market over illegal means as long as the fiction is under a certain level. Most Americans would rather pay an extra $15 a month for streaming that to pirate content and go through the "hassle" of getting that pirated content on their TV. How many non-tech people do you know who can mirror a PC or lap…

Plex is a really easy way to stream video files from your computer to a chromecast, and I can use my phone as a remote. It works just as well as googe play and better than my current amazon workflow.(Which I can only play from the computer because they won't allow streaming to chromecast)

Pretty sure that most people value their time and staying on the right side of the law more than a few dollars a month.

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Post by netwanderer3 »

Nobody has mentioned the real problem is that most Hollywood movies these days are recycled garbage.

People are probably going to switch from Netflix over to Disney+ once it is launched. Once Netflix is gone, Disney+ would then jack up its price to $40/month. I think we have all seen this movie too many times before.

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Post by rusticpotato »

dewey wrote: post #39
rusticpotato wrote: post #37

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Multiply that by about 10 subscription services each? Each at 7-11$ a month. I see a supernova

Didn't people also spent large amounts on one cable provider with different packages? Now it's just a bunch of different providers essentially.

Yeah but psychologically you have to pay ten more bills every month. Not everyone is on full auto pay. Even then, it’s annoying to have ten separate billing dates and such.

Also not to mention having to click ten different apps and manage which app has which show - it can quickly get annoying

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Post by mprev »

vageli wrote: post #71
paulcole wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whatever works for you I guess, lol.

> Whatever works for you I guess, lol. Do you consider libraries to be facilitating piracy? If not, how do Causality1's examples differ?

In the UK, at least, public libraries pay a tiny fee to the author each time the book is borrowed. We are talking pennies a year but, in terms of intent at least, it is not the same.

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Post by dewey »

JamesBarney wrote: post #70
dewey wrote: post #38

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These technical friends may exist, but I'd guess most of the people would rather pay 15$ / month to some provider than bothering their friend to set them up with a Plex server, maintaining it, figuring out what file to download ("What is this 1080p, 720p?), waiting for downloads to be done, clear out old torrents so they have disk space again. These are all things that are fun to "us" technical people and I don't min…

I think you're overestimating the difficulty of plex. There's no real maintenance, you don't have to be very technical to download a file(it's two clicks), and if they don't know the difference between 1080p and 720p they don't care, they've waited for downloads before, and hard drives are so large now you rarely have to clear out them out. My wife uses plex without any problem and she can't stand technology. But bes…

I have a very well oiled Plex / Flexget / Sonarr setup myself so I know what you are talking about and it's seriously great.

If you set it up for someone it'll work very well but if you have to do it yourself, or ask someone else to do it for you and they don't already have their own setup and offer it to you it's not really an option for most people who don't like to tinker with these things in their free time.

I think we can agree on that it's great for people who'd like to tinker and maybe offer it to their family members, maybe even with something like http://plexrequests.8bits.ca but for "normal" people it's not really an option.

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Post by dmitriid »

> But their shows were a boon for Netflix's nascent streaming service, which had a small library of old movies when it debuted in 2007.

That’s exactly what Netflix is right now. There’s a dearth of new content besides Netflix’s own originals. Netflix routinely suggests titles from 10-15-20 years ago and rarely any newer titles (outside some of the bigger blockbusters like Star Wars).

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Post by dagw »

rusticpotato wrote: post #37
40acres wrote: post #22

I don't think piracy will come back as streaming becomes more segregated, people generally will go with the legitimate market over illegal means as long as the fiction is under a certain level. Most Americans would rather pay an extra $15 a month for streaming that to pirate content and go through the "hassle" of getting that pirated content on their TV. How many non-tech people do you know who can mirror a PC or lap…

Multiply that by about 10 subscription services each? Each at 7-11$ a month. I see a supernova

As long as starting and stopping your subscription is easy enough, there is no reason to have more than 3 of those 10 services active at any one time.

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Post by kkarakk »

dewey wrote: post #51
chii wrote: post #46

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popcorntime still exists and works very well. No need to be running your own server.

In some countries (Germany) using public torrent trackers (like what popcorntime is doing behind the scenes) will result in 300+ Euros of fines pretty quickly. You also have to factor the legality in which is a pretty big factor for choosing to pay on top of convenience I‘d guess. Now you also have to explain your non-technical guest how to use a VPN, pay for it and make sure it’s always running before starting popco…

i just set it up in the router, all they do is connect to wifi and follow a link. i do it for personal home movies but you could extend the concept trivially for sharing a home library of copyrighted torrented movies
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