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The small bare metal hosting company I use for some projects hardly goes down, and when there is an issue, I can actually get a human being on the phone in 2 minutes. Plus, a bare metal server with tons of RAM costs less than a small VM on the big cloud providers.

> a bare metal server with tons of RAM costs less than a small VM on the big cloud providers Who are you getting this steal of a deal from?

I've had pretty good luck with Green House Data's Colo Service and their Cloud offerings. A couple of RU's in the data center can host 1000's of VM's in multi-regions with great connectivity between them.

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#552

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It's the Queen's birthday, a Monday off here in New Zealand... ... but not for everybody now.

So what happens when the crown changes? They change the holiday? Immediately? For the next year? Sounds like a bit of a nightmare.

If you think that's a hassle, in Japan the calendar changes with the emperor:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/jul/25/big-tech-...

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post #546

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Any solution would be based on third parties, the robust solution is either to run your own country with fuel sources for electricity and army to defend the datacenters or rely on multiple independent infrastructures. I think the latter is less complex.

This is a ridiculous statement. Surely you realise that there is a sliding scale. You can run your own hardware and pull in multiple power lines without establishing your own country. I’ve ran my own hardware, maybe people have genuinely forgotten what it’s like, and granted, it takes preparation and planning and it’s harder than clicking “go” in a dashboard. But it’s not the same as establishing a country and source…

Correct. Most CFO's I've run into as of late would rather spend $100 on a cloud vm than deal with capex, depreciation, and management of the infrastructure. Even though doing it yourself with the right people can go alot further.

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Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud (but disclaimer, I'm on vacation and so not much use to you!). We're having what appears to be a serious networking outage. It's disrupting everything, including unfortunately the tooling we usually use to communicate across the company about outages. There are backup plans, of course, but I wanted to at least come here to say: you're not crazy, nothing is lost (to those concerns do…

We are also hosted on GCP bit nothing is down for us. We are using 3 regions in US and 2 in EU.

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Back when S3 failures would take town Reddit, parts of Twitter .. Netflix survived because they had additional availability zones. I can remember the bigger names started moving more stuff to their own data centers. AWS tries to lock people in to specific services now which makes it really difficult to migrate. It also takes a while before you get to the tipping point where hosting your own is more financially viable…

I am not sure if a single S3 outage pushed any big names into their own "datacenter". S3 has still the world record of reliability that you cannot challenge with your inhouse solutions. You can prove it otherwise. I would love to hear a solution that has the same durability, avabiality and scalability as S3. For the downvoters, please just link here the proof if you disagree. Here are the S3 numbers: https://aws.amaz…

> For the downvoters, please just link here the proof if you disagree.

> Here are the S3 numbers: https://aws.amazon.com/s3/sla/

99.9%

https://azure.microsoft.com/en-au/support/legal/sla/storage/...

99.99%

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Many millions of dollars per year. I care about how my providers behave when they have issues, and I can't see why you think it's not at all relevant.

> "why you think it's not at all relevant" Nobody said this. > "I care about how my providers behave when they have issues" We all do. As the other commenters stated, the communication is poor because the clouds are still growing rapidly and there's not much reason to be better. We might also be underestimating just how much more better service would cost and whether it's worth the revenue loss (if any). Are you real…

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Solutions based on third-party butts have essentially two modes: the usual, where everything is smooth, and the bad one, where nothing works and you're shit out of luck - you can't get to your data anymore, because it's in my butt, accessible only through that butt, and arguably not even your data. With on-prem solutions, you can at least access the physical servers and get your data out to carry on with your day whi…

Took me a second. I didn’t know the cloud-to-butt translator worked on comments too. I forgot that was even a thing.

Oh that’s weird, because it totally worked for me with “butts” as a euphemism for “people”, as in “butt-in-seat time” — relying on a third-party service is essentially relying on third party butts (i.e. people), and your data is only accessible through those people, whom you don’t control.

And then “your data is in my butt” was just a play on that.

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#559

Nest is down too, not surprising given they are part of Google. What I don't understand is why I can't still control my devices over my local network. Why does the system even require access to Google servers?

That made me rage the other day when I had an internet outage. I am honestly fed up with Nest esp after this new Google Nest branding, and just disconnected my thermostats from the internet. I rarely changed it from my scheduled settings via the app anyway.

Makes me wonder What your thermostats are doing on the internet in the first place.

Re: Google Cloud Is Down

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post #275

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I don't know about Steam, but I know Apple must use Google Cloud: https://www.apple.com/support/systemstatus/

Less than 1% of users are affected Is there any reason to presume these statuses are correlated? Apple's issue is > Users may be experiencing slower than normal performance with this service.

Could be the only users who were affected were ones caught right in the failover between redundant clouds
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