This is your yearly reminder to resist centralization of the internet.
Yes, I haven't read the Bitcoin is down or BitTorrent is down status yet.
Google Cloud Is Down
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Care to name names? I've been looking for a small, cheap failover for a moderately low traffic app.
In the US I use Hivelocity. If you want cheapest possible, Hetzner/OVH have deals you can get for _cheap._
Thanks a million. Those prices look similar to what I've used in the past, it's just been a long time since I've gone shopping for small scale dedicated hosting.
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This number is still total bullshit. They could lose a few kb and be above that for centuries
None of the big cloud providers have unrecoverably lost hosted data yet, despite sorting vast volumes, so this doesn't seem BS to me.
AWS lost data in Australia a few years ago due to a power outage I believe.
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#534Earlier quoted context omitted.
This number is still total bullshit. They could lose a few kb and be above that for centuries
None of the big cloud providers have unrecoverably lost hosted data yet, despite sorting vast volumes, so this doesn't seem BS to me.
Not losing any data yet doesn't give justification for such absurd numbers
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We went multi-region as a result of the 2012 inc. source: I now manage the team responsible for performing regional evacuations (shifting traffic and scaling the savior regions).
That sounds fascinating! How often does your team have to leap into action?
I think some Google engineers published a free Meap book on service relatability and uptime guarantees. Seemingly counterintuitive, scheduling downtime, without other teams’ prior knowledge, encourages teams to handle outages properly and reduce single points of failure, among other things.
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The 16 9's are for durability , not availability. AWS is not saying S3 will never go down; they're saying it will rarely lose your data.
This number is still total bullshit. They could lose a few kb and be above that for centuries
It's not about losing a few kb here and there.
It's about losing entire data centers to massive natural disasters once in a century.
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Can't use my Nest lock to let guests into my house. I'm pretty sure their infrastructure is hosted in Google Cloud. So yeah... definitely some stuff lost.
Everyone talking about security and not replacing locks with smart locks seems to forget that you can just kick the fucking door down or jimmy a window open.
Except kicking the door down is not particularly scalable or clandestine
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GCP is incredibly bad at communicating when there are problems with their systems. Just terrible. Its only when our apps start to break that we notice something is down, then look at the green dashboard which is even more infuriating.
What aren’t these on separate systems? I never had the impression that google cheaps out on things but this sounds exactly like the sort of shit that happens when people cheap out. Not even a canary system?
The idea that Google spends big on expensive systems is a huge lie.
Google started using a Beowulf cluster that the founders wired themselves. From the very beginning, the goal of metrics collection was to optimize costs. While today it’s seen as the cash cow, the focus has always been on cheap components strung together, relying on algorithms and code for stability and making the least possible demands of underlying hardware.
To think that they won’t try to save money any time they can seems implausible.
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They WILL absolutely block and suspend all accounts indefinitely. They have terminated accounts for credit card failing transactions. I really wanted to try out their new autoML but I was paranoid of entering my credit card and getting banned from Google
oh man....so ALL of my gmail gets banned? this is FUCKED. its aking to holding my youtube and google play accounts hostage.
all your bases belong to us.
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#540You know this reminds me of a bad taste that Google Sales team left when I asked for some of my billing that I was unaware of running after following a quickstart guide. AWS refunded me in the first reply on the same day! GCP sales rep just copy pasted a link to a self support survey that essentially told me, after a series of YES or NO questions that they can't refund me. So why not just tell your customers like it…
>I asked for some of my billing that I was unaware of running
>I have called my bank to do a chargeback
You're issuing a chargeback because you made a mistake and spent someone else's resources? And you're admitting to this on HN? I'm not a lawyer, but that sounds like fraud and / or theft to me.