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Google Cloud Is Down

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Post by ignoramous »

snazz wrote: post #370
fusl wrote: post #344

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> For the downvoters, please just link here the proof if you disagree. https://wasabi.com/

How can they possibly guarantee eleven nines? Considering I’ve never heard of this company and they offer such crazy-sounding improvements over the big three, it feels like there should be a catch.

11 9s isn't uncommon. AWS S3 does 11 9s (upto 16 9s with cross region replication?) for data durability, too. AFAIK, AWS published papers about their use of formal methods to ascertain bugs from other parts of the system didn't creep in to affect durability/availability guarantees: https://blog.acolyer.org/2014/11/24/use-of-formal-methods-at...

This is a pretty neat and concise read on ObjectStorage in-use at BigTech, in case you're interested: https://maisonbisson.com/post/object-storage-prior-art-and-l...

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Post by foobarbazetc »

nodesocket wrote: post #334
foobarbazetc wrote: post #287

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Seems to be the private network. The public network looks fine to us from all over the world?

Not on my end. Public access in us-west2 (Los Angeles) is down for me.

Hmmm... why is our monitoring network not showing that?

Edit: ah, looks like the LB is sending LA traffic to Oregon.

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Post by rexarex »

fredthomsen wrote: post #381
kerng wrote: post #337

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Google is well known for not caring about small shops, only if you are a multi million dollar customer with dedicated account manager you can expect reasonable support. That's been the case forever with them.

Does Amazon treat smaller customers any better? I am genuinely asking, as I have no clue.

Yes

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Post by Scoundreller »

BillinghamJ wrote: post #331
Scoundreller wrote: post #300

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And for those of us in GST/HST/VAT land, hosting in USA saves us some tax expenditures.

You know, normally you still have to pay that tax - just through a reverse charge process

Not the case in Canada if you’re not an HST registrant (non-business or a small enough business where you’re exempt).

Even if you did have to self-assess, better to pay later than right away.

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Post by londons_explore »

tntn wrote: post #269

There goes 3 nines for June and for Q2. I guess everyone gets a 10% discount for the month? https://cloud.google.com/compute/sla

The discount seems way too small.

I would pay a premium for a cloud provider happy to give 100 percent discount for the month for 10 minutes downtime, and 100 percent discount for the year for an hour's downtime.

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Post by BillinghamJ »

Stryder wrote: post #389
pitaj wrote: post #372

Looks like my Gmail is back, but I don't have any emails from while it was down. Yikes. Edit: just got one email from the downtime, so perhaps my initial conclusion was incorrect

Whoa, if confirmed this would be really bad. Downtime happens, but data loss is much worse.

This is normal handling for SMTP - the sending server just tries again later.

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Post by ohazi »

boulos wrote: post #63

Disclosure: I work on Google Cloud (but disclaimer, I'm on vacation and so not much use to you!). We're having what appears to be a serious networking outage. It's disrupting everything, including unfortunately the tooling we usually use to communicate across the company about outages. There are backup plans, of course, but I wanted to at least come here to say: you're not crazy, nothing is lost (to those concerns do…

> including unfortunately the tooling we usually use to communicate across the company about outages.

So memegen is down?

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Post by enneff »

kerng wrote: post #342
WC3w6pXxgGd wrote: post #107

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Anything created in-house at Google (GCP) is typically created by technically-proficient devs, those devs then leave the project to start something new and maintenance is left to interns and new hires. Google customer service basically doesn't care and also has no tools at their disposal to fix any issues anyway. The infinite money spout that is Google Ads has created a situation in which devs are at Google just to h…

I'm not sure why you are downvoted - seems like a reasonable insight and explanation for the drop in quality and weird decisions Google is making recently.

It’s not insightful at all. Just one intern’s very brief observations of something way more complicated and nuanced than is deserving of such a dismissive comment.

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Post by Moru »

swinglock wrote: post #223
gowld wrote: post #185

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It's a trade-off of risks. Leaving a key under the may could lead to a security breach.

Don't be ridiculous. Real alternatives would include P2P between your smart lock and your phone app or a locally hosted hub device which controls all home automation/IoT, instead of a cloud. If the Internet can still route a "unlock" message from your phone to your lock, why do you require a cloud for it to work?

Or use one of the boxes with combination lock that you can screw onto your wall for holding a physical key. Some are even recommended by insurance companies.
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