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Google Cloud Is Down

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Re: Google Cloud Is Down

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To clarify something: this outage doesn’t appear to be global, but it is hitting us particularly hard in parts of the US. So for the folks with working VMs in Mumbai, you’re not crazy. But for everyone with sadness in us-central1, the team is on it.

It seems global to me. This is really strange compared to AWS. I don't remember an outage there (other than s3) impacting instances or networking globally.

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Always in Virginia, because US-east has always been cheaper.

And for those of us in GST/HST/VAT land, hosting in USA saves us some tax expenditures.

How?

At least in EU services bought from overseas are subject to reverse charge, i.e. self-assessment of VAT (Article 196 of https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:02... ).

Though note that if you are an EU AWS customer, you are not buying from outside EU, you are buying from Amazon's EU branches regardless of AWS region. If Amazon has a local branch in your country, they charge you VAT as any local company does. Otherwise you buy from an Amazon branch in another EU country, and you again need to self-assess VAT (reverse charge) per Article 196.

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#353

Nest is down too, not surprising given they are part of Google. What I don't understand is why I can't still control my devices over my local network. Why does the system even require access to Google servers?

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AWS has what feel like monthly AZ brownouts (typically degradated performance or other control plane issues) with the yearly-ish regional brown/blackout. GCP has quarterly-ish global blackouts, and generally on the data plane at that which makes them significantly more severe.

Are there any services that track uptime for various regions and zones from various providers? It's rare that everything goes down and thus the cloud providers pretend they have almost no downtime.

I can't imagine that being easy or cheap to make given the staggering number of product offerings across even the few big providers and how subtle some outages tend to be.

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Instagram is on GCloud? Facebook has a heavy investment in their own DCs, I thought they would have transitioned to them by now.

No, the graphs are highly misleading because they autoscale the y axis to the highest point and the they do very loose string matching to detect errors. If you click through to something not on Google cloud, you see moderately elevated error rates (e.g., Instagram is up by 4x) but if you click through to something actually on Google, you see very highly elevated error rates (e.g., roughly 50000x for Snapchat). If you…

Ah. I was looking at it on phone and it wasn't clear. Thanks for clarifying.

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I see a lot of Nest complaints, isn't there any security issue if Nest goes down?

I see people complain about Nest and the only thing I can think of is "what on earth where you thinking to have a door or thermostat that doesn't function without internet?!"

Internet isn't the issue, it's the endpoint (Google)

It's reasonably easy to run a router/gateway that has a 4G backup to get the ping out. Whether the ping works...

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This must be why GitLab is giving me shit. They recently made the switch. Wonder if there is any second guessing going on over there right now.

I was just thinking the same. One of their reasons (besides being paid a lot by Google) was stability.

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> like using region specific S3 endpoints AWS had the S3 incident affecting all of us-east-1: “Other AWS services in the US-EAST-1 Region that rely on S3 for storage, including the S3 console, Amazon Elastic Compute Cloud (EC2) new instance launches, Amazon Elastic Block Store (EBS) volumes (when data was needed from a S3 snapshot), and AWS Lambda were also impacted while the S3 APIs were unavailable.” https://aws.am…

There was a massive push after that to have everything regionalized. It's not 100% but it's super close at this point.

S3 buckets are a global namespace, so control plane operations have to be single-homed. As an example, global consensus has to be reached before returning a success response for bucket creation to ensure that two buckets can't be created with the same name.
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