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Google Cloud Is Down

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Re: Google Cloud Is Down

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Nice overview : https://downdetector.com/

I see a lot of Nest complaints, isn't there any security issue if Nest goes down?

My whole house is covered by a Nest Secure alarm system. At the moment my Nest Guard is telling me "it's offline". But if someone breaks in the house, the alarm will still ring in the house, however I believe I won't be notified on my phone (can't even log into the Nest app), and the alarm monitoring center (operated by Brinks under a partnership with Google) probably won't be notified as well, which sucks. I'd love to test it right now, but my daughter is sleeping and I don't want the alarm to wake her up...

I wonder how often outages occur with other alarm monitoring companies. They certainly do occur, but customers don't have a lot of visibility into them.

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Anyone using both AWS and GCP that can form an opinion on availability of both? As a GCP customer I am not very happy with theirs.

I use both services heavily at work. The networking in GCP is terrible. We experience minor service degradation multiple times a month due to networking issues in GCP (elevated latency, errors talking to the DB, etc). We've even had cases where there was packet corruption at the bare metal layer, so we ended up storing a bunch of garbage data in our caches / databases. Also, the networking is less understandable on G…

Just curious, is this on a specific region(s)?

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The small bare metal hosting company I use for some projects hardly goes down, and when there is an issue, I can actually get a human being on the phone in 2 minutes. Plus, a bare metal server with tons of RAM costs less than a small VM on the big cloud providers.

Care to name names? I've been looking for a small, cheap failover for a moderately low traffic app.

In the US I use Hivelocity. If you want cheapest possible, Hetzner/OVH have deals you can get for _cheap._

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post #151

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To clarify something: this outage doesn’t appear to be global, but it is hitting us particularly hard in parts of the US. So for the folks with working VMs in Mumbai, you’re not crazy. But for everyone with sadness in us-central1, the team is on it.

Some services are still impacted globally. Gmail over IMAP is unreachable for me. (Edit: gmail web is fine)

Quick update from Germany, both youtube and gmail appear to work fine

Re: Google Cloud Is Down

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post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To clarify something: this outage doesn’t appear to be global, but it is hitting us particularly hard in parts of the US. So for the folks with working VMs in Mumbai, you’re not crazy. But for everyone with sadness in us-central1, the team is on it.

It seems global to me. This is really strange compared to AWS. I don't remember an outage there (other than s3) impacting instances or networking globally.

Years ago, when I was playing with AWS in a course on building cloud-hosted services, it was well-known that all the AWS management was hosted out of a single zone, and there were several days we had to cancel class because us-east-1 had an outage, so while technically all our VMs hosted out of other AZs were extant, all our attempts to manage our VMs via the web UI or API were timing or erroring out.

I understand this is long-since resolved (I haven't tried building a service on Amazon in a couple years, so this isn't personal experience), but centralized failure modes in decentralized systems can persist longer than you might expect.

(Work for Google, not on Cloud or anything related to this outage that I'm aware of, I have no knowledge other than reading the linked outage page.)

Re: Google Cloud Is Down

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Playing "is google on this website or not?" just became so much easier, simply see if website works or not.

Scary stuff. What happens when Murphy's law decides to crash things even more?

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